WEEK ONE Updates: Main Thread - Awakening Tárrega's Spirit

Hello and welcome to the WEEK ONE Main Thread for this challenge! 😍


Alright my friends - this is the thread where we'll all be posting our daily updates.

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Twice a week between Mai 31st and June 21st, I hope to be reading your daily updates in this very thread right here!


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Please use the following format when commenting (feel free to copy & paste!):

 

  • One thing you found easy:
  • One thing you found difficult:
  • (Optional): a video of you performing it!
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  • Still working on Prelude no. 1.  It is definitely easier as I settle into a consistent fingering pattern.  Also, the measures 3 - 5 are also easier (still not what I would call easy, but thank you for the tip Martin on measure 4 using the 2nd finger as the guide finger; it also helps stabilize that chord as well, and helps with intonation I think...). 

    Difficulty - definitely trying to maintain a nice legato while adhering to the dynamics.

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      Paul Kennedy Awesome, glad that I could be of help! I've just recently discovered the piece, but it'll stay with me for a long time, I'm sure! I so much love the change between E-Major and C-Major in the end!

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  • Did I say Prelude no.1?  I meant Prelude no. 5 (I was dabbling in Prelude No. 1 for a few minutes before sitting down to write this).

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  • Initially, I was going to work on Maria, a piece I have not done yet. But since I’m traveling, I did not have enough time to work on it. So I decided to do a piece I’ve done plenty of times before. Etude in E minor. 
      I’ll work on Maria for later on this week(:

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    • Devyn McCrea Very good👋

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    • Devyn McCrea beautiful!! Kitchen have great acoustics! 

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    • Devyn McCrea Good job, Devyn! 👋

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      Devyn McCrea Well done! This piece starts out so gentle, but then this damn jump into the B-Major7 with that A on top! You did a great job on this one, I especially enjoyed your contrasts (and the ending, haha!)

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    • Martin thank you! Totally forgot to mention what I found hard/easy. 
        Doing the arpeggios with my right hand is what I find easy. But that jump to the B maj7 is a bear. And playing this at a higher tempo is challenging! I’ve never been a fast player, but that’s what I wanted to work on with this etude. 

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      Devyn McCrea Great, thank you for your insights!  💪

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  • I start with the easiest😊

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  • Here is the first draft of Prelude number 5 - not sure that the timing is too good as I think there is a tendency to make the rhythm into triplets as Martin warned us against! Slight pause on one bit but i didn't have time to re record it. I will study the video and try to improve on it.

    one thing I found easy: listening to Martin play it!  Learning the notes wasn't too difficult.

    One thing I found hard: listening to me play it! - R=Trying to get the timing of the dotted rhythm and the playing it with a nice legato

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    • Derek very good Derek.  The change in mood from major to minor is very convincing,  tone is beautiful. 

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    • Derek That was great, Derek! I love this music so much, and it’s such a joy to share our love for it.

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    • Derek How good !!! a piece not easy for me and you did it very well👋👋

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      Derek Nice work!  It's a lovely piece. I have to try that one.

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    • Derek beautiful!!! What a recording!!!!! Great tone

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    • joosje thank you Joosje

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    • Eric Phillips thank you Eric

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    • Giuseppe Gasparini grazier Giuseppe

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    • Olalla thank you Olalla. I hadn't heard it until recently and now it is one of my favourite pieces

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    • Emma thank you Emma

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      Derek Awesome job, happy to hear that you try to implement the advises I gave in the the Playing Slow without Playing Boring Livestream! I will probably record this piece again for this challenge, I have some fingerings that might improve the legato if you decide to adapt them!


      I hadn't heard it until recently and now it is one of my favourite pieces

      Exactly what you say! It's such a beauty and I really enjoyed your overall dynamic flow through the piece!

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    • Derek  This is my challenge piece too.  Thank you Derek!  It is very helpful to me to hear (and see) this performed by several different people and hearing their interpretations.  Thank you again.

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    • Martin Thanks Martin - looking forward to your recording

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    • Paul Kennedy thank you Paul - good luck with your progress - it's a great piece

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    • Derek great performance and recording partner! Video is also very good, have you got a larger green screen?  

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    • Gokce Turkmendag Merhaba Gokce. Thank you. I was learning this for three or four weeks before the challenge started so I used it as my first piece for the challenge. I haven't got a larger screen - I have managed to clear out some of the junk in my room :-) before that I always got something else in the picture so that I had to move the camera closer to me so as not to see anything else :-)

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    • Derek Lovely tone Derek and well played. Such a beautiful piece. Nice vibrato. 

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    • Debbie thank you Debbie

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  • I've chosen to work on Rosita as it's not a piece I've played before.

    Easy: reading through slowly - apart from when I forgot I was in D tuning!

    Difficult: making time to practice - hopefully next week will be better

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       Ron Oooh, I forgot about Rosita, very excited for that one!

      Don't worry, I already forgot a D-Tuning while I played a duo on stage. Stuff like that happens!

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  • Hey guys,  Sorry for delay in posting, but injured my left shoulder(I don't know how...).  Anyway, I will hopefully try to post a video of something tomorrow...probably Capricho Arabe to start.

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      Barney Oh no, get well soon!!! 👨‍⚕️🏥🩺

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    • Martin Thanks Martin!  Feeling much better today.  As we get older, these annoying injuries, aches and pains occur more.

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  • Okay here goes!  This is one of my all time favorite pieces.  I'm going to work on Capricho Arabe.  

    Something that I've found easy: With this piece, because it's so close to my heart, I have listened to, and watched this piece played over and over again.  I've watched the lesson here on Tonebase as well.  I think the fingering on this works well and I've found alternate fingerings that seem to work for me.  

     

    Something I've found difficult: TIMING!  Boy this is a stickler for me.  When I play this piece, I've learned it, but the chords and fingerings primarily.  Getting it squared away with the timing...that's always been tough for me.   I like to ad-lib the whole thing, which when I've watched myself on a recording is all broken up because of the timing, but that is the tough piece for me.  

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      Chris I know that feeling, that's why recording yourself is so valuable! You really get a sense of the development of a piece over a longer period of time. When I recognize that in one of my pieces, I play through the piece quite slow without rubato and a metronome-like beat, just to see what the music is capable without any added "flavour"! 

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  • Just for fun, I thought I'd try something different. I played Lagrima twice. The first time, I played it the way I typically play. The second time, I tried to exaggerate contrasts in dynamics, tone color, and tempo. Let me know which one you think is better.

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    • Eric Phillips Bravo Eric, very well played, I like the second one more and I find it more personalized👋👋

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    • Eric Phillips I prefer the second, to me it is more musical. Beautiful 

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      Eric Phillips beautiful! I think I prefer the second performance as well! 🧙‍♂️ I'd be a little careful about the abrupt tempo changes, I'd like to imagine the underlying tempo map as a rubber band! If you stretch it too quickly to extreme, it might break!

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    • Martin Good analogy, thanks! Like I said, I was intentionally exaggerating things in an somewhat improvisatory way. As always, what seemed extreme to me while playing wasn't quite as extreme when I listened back. I'll blame the low quality of my recording equipment (aka iPhone 7)! (When in doubt, always blame the equipment. 😉)

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    • Eric Phillips you're doing great and you're so right, we always think we are doing a lot while in fact it's not that much. We shouldn't be shy to exaggerate until we find our own sweet spot were what we produce is close to what we hear inside.

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    • Eric Phillips I like your second video because it is more musically interesting, Eric! 

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  • I'm going to give Adelita a shot for this challenge. I've been wanting to play this piece for a long time but it keeps getting pushed off.  This is a good external motivator to get it into my repertoire!  I put in about 1/2 hour yesterday and another 1/2 hour today. Hopefully I'll get a video of my progress this weekend for my 2nd post.

     

    One thing I found easy:  The first half.

    One thing I found hard: The second half if MUCH harder than the first. :D

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    • matt I agree about that second half being much harder!

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      matt Great, a wonderful moody piece with a beautiful major B-Part. I always dived pieces like the second half in Positions, so that my hand always has a feeling of "this is my happy place, I can relax now for a couple of micro seconds"! Excited for your update!

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      Eric Phillips Thanks Eric, I'm glad it's not just me! 😄

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      Martin Thanks for the tip about positions for the b part I will keep this in mind.

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  • Hi, I decided to start with Lagrima believing it would a fairly easy piece to start with.  Oh boy, was I wrong.   It was quite challenging.

    • One thing you found easy:  Finding the notes wasn't so hard.
    • One thing you found difficult:  I found it quite difficult to decide on dynamics.  I probably overdid it and also eliminating string noises whilst shifting was difficult!  Very obvious will listening back to the recordings.  Doh!
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    • Olalla very beautiful!!!! It is very clean, I can not hear so many noises

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      Emma thanks Emma for your lovely feedback. I actually recorded multiple times in order to try and eliminate noise.

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    • Olalla That was wonderful! Your sound is just how I imagine Tarrega to sound. 

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      Eric Phillips Wow! Thank you!

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      Olalla Awesome! I have to agree with Emma , you did a good job avoiding the squeaks! And you have a beautiful full and round tone, I think this is what is carrying over the underlying dynamics! I don't think that you overdid it, a very soft, yet full and round note will have the emotional impact of the pianissimo but still remains clear and perceivable. Like an actor who speaks very softly on stage but you can still here it until the last row!

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      Martin thanks Martin! I really appreciate your feedback. 

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    • Olalla thanks for sharing, your intentions and voicing are clear, you feel very comfortable. 👍

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    • Olalla You played it very well, very good👋👋

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    • Olalla Another one of my favorites.  You inspired me to play through this a couple of times even though my piece is Prelude no. 5.  Very nicely done.

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    • Olalla very beautiful Olalla

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    • Olalla Lovely sound Olalla. I love this piece and play it all the time. You made it sound very sweet and did a great job!

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    • Olalla Congratulations! Really beautiful sound! keep that nice work.

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    • Olalla I can really hear your nice changing of tone color from playing ponticello to playing on the sound hole. Beautiful and clean sound! 

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  • Hello! Completed prelude number 1 . 
    Easy, it is a beautiful piece so it is fantastic to practice. Interpretation is coming along well.

    Difficult, there are a couple of places where I still stumble. The bars 13 and 14 and the harmonics at the end. As I am travelling I may let it brew before I record it. Then record this and number 5 next week, even if it is with a worse guitar. Guys you are all playing so so wonderfully that I need more time to catch up! 

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    • Emma Looking forward to hearing from you, Emma. That is such a gorgeous piece! (P.S. And aren't you jealous of Martin, playing it so beautifully after ONE HOUR of practice!?)

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      Emma Thank you for your update! Bar 13 works really well with a hinge bar! Keep going, excited for your update! 💪

      Eric 🧙‍♂️😈

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  • OK, here it goes:

    What I found easy:  Listening to all of the beautiful interpretations by so many dedicated Tarregians (is that a word?).  I learn so much from seeing and hearing these pieces performed.  For my own piece, Prelude No. 5, what has become easier are the 3 (and 4) note chords in measures 3 - 5, and again in measures 13 - 14 (thank you Martin).

    What I found difficult is getting the dynamics right in measures 20 and 21 p < pp > along with the accent over second beat in measure 20 - it is a lot going on, especially while trying to play legato!

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      Paul Kennedy Oh, let's make it a word then, haha! 

      Yes, the dynamicys in the end are quite interesting, I really tried to use it like a manual. Playing what is written is a challenge in itselfe, but it makes the end bloom beautifully!

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  • Hello Martin Tonebase crew and Community.

     

    I would love to join in with this challenge. The music of Francisco Tarrega is very dear to me.

    I have chosen the 'Tango'. It took a long while to choose but I've discovered many future projects in the process.

    One thing I found easy was getting the tune in my head (my Dad plays this one)

    Once I got going I found several things hard but:

    One thing I found hard was the tuning 6th string to D -AND 5th string to G. It taxed my brain a bit! I liked it!

    Im uploading my first performance. Filming this has already been super educational. I am exited to hear any feedback from any of you crazy talented amazing friends. 

    My Dad always says its my Mums favourite the Tango - so Im determined to get this one absolutely Banging!!

    One Love Jaime 

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    • Jaime Zaldua Thanks for joining in, Jaime! I’ve always shied away from this because of the tuning, but I may have to give it a try.

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      Jaime Zaldua that is a very lovely Tango. I really enjoyed your performance!  Another piece I definitely want to learn. 

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      Jaime Zaldua Thanks for picking this piece. I've not heard this one before. After hearing your performance I want to learn it too!! Thanks for the inspiration and introducing me to some new music. 

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    • Jaime Zaldua Very good, thanks for proposing it👋👋

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    • Jaime Zaldua Well played Jaime - I enjoyed this performance but looking forward to a later version. I'm thinking of doing this one but I may leave it until last so that i can work my way down the tuning - start with pieces in standard tuning then pieces with the 6th to D followed by this one!

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      Jaime Zaldua Great to see you here! And absolutely beautifully done, thank you for sharing your personal connection with this piece as well! 

      Different tunings can be always quite challenging to wrap your hand around, definitely! I have a similar problem with changing back and forth with a capo, always messes with my point of reference!

      I did a workshop recently on Chord Balance for the Right hand, I think your performance of this piece can benefit from some of the exercises given in the live stream!

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    • Jaime Zaldua Very lovely Jaime! Well played and sounds like a tango so mission accomplished!

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    • Jaime Zaldua great to see you in Jaime! I'm looking forward to hear more submissions from you 👍

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  • Hey guys,

    Only had time to do one take of this Capricho Arabe, so please excuse my mistakes, and hope you enjoy it!  I had an problem with the mordent in the major section--during the Bar at III, which was sloppy and needs to be fixed.  Any suggestions are welcome.  Thanks!

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    • Barney This is great, Barney! Very musical, and intense! A few mistakes (far fewer than me), but I'd much rather listen to music with a few mistakes but is musical and moving, than a "perfect" performance that has no musicality. This was a joy to listen to! 👋👋👋

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    • Barney Very good, a very demanding piece👋👋

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    • Giuseppe Gasparini Thanks Giuseppe!  Hearing and watching ourselves play the pieces really helps identify problem areas.  Sometimes when we are playing we think we know what it sounds like, but we are wrong when we listen back.  Recording is a great diagnostic tool, and I have to thank Martin for teaching and encouraging us to record ourselves. 🎙️🎛️🎧

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    • Barney Barney - any mistakes that were noticed were certainly excused and I did enjoy it - very much. Well played.

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    • Derek Thanks Derek!!

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      Barney Wow, thank you! So cool to see you perform at such a high level and such a demanding piece, and  moreover I really enjoyed the quality of your audio and video!!! You have a nice rembrandt-ian lighting situation going on, great!

      I made a video with a few suggestions for this passage, it's a tough one, but I think you make your life a little bit harder than you need to by keeping the second finger ont the g , 4th string for two beats!
       

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    • Martin Thank you very much for your kind words.  I really appreciate your advice to play this passage better.  You identified the problem perfectly, and I will play it that way from now on.

      I owe the recording quality to your wonderful training and guidance along the way.  As far as the "rembrandt-ian lighting" goes, I just got lucky.  I'm not using any additional lightning equipment.  There is only one overhead ceiling dome light in that room, and that's it.  Hope it's repeatable..HaHa.

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    • Barney oh Barney that's great! I was almost giving up the piece after watching your performance. Recording quality is also really good, well done! 

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    • Barney Very beautiful Barney! Your slurs are very nice and clear. I'm impressed you've been able to learn it in one week! I'm only on the first page and still have far to go!

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    • Gokce Turkmendag Thank you Gokce!!  Never give up. You are a wonderful guitarist!  This piece requires some extra time and attention.  I learned this piece many years ago, but have not played it in a long time, so this challenge is great to revisit some old gems.  I find that memorizing the piece  and solving the technical problems first (sometimes with the help from you guys , and of course Martin and Mircea) is most important for me;  then listen to the music as you play and try to make it musical and sound beautiful (and not worry about technique). I've found this works best for me so far.  There is always plenty of room for improvement -- we keep learning.

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    • Debbie Thank you Debbie!  This is not the first time I've ever played this piece.  ( So don't be too impressed Ha Ha).  It was many many years ago, so this week was revisiting it.  It certainly has some challenging parts to make it sound decent, but it's fun to play these great standards.

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    • Barney thanks Barney, I know I need more time for this piece. I will keep going.

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    • Barney wow... what a performance... thanks for sharing this moment.

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    • Blaise Laflamme Thanks Blaise!!

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    • Barney nice warm sound, Barney!

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    • Khiem Nguyen Thank you Khiem!!

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    • Martin my score has the same fingerings as you (and Ana 😉) but I still found it helpful to see you play it. The stretch here is very demanding for the left hand. And I like the touch of damping the 4th string in m. 26. Thanks Martin!

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  • Here is an update of me playing the wonderful but challenging measure 41 of Maria. After some wonderful tips from Martin (see video above) I am now able to play it much better. I did change my fingering, but I am mostly concentrating on lifting my wrist and moving it intentionally and fluidly toward the destination in the glissando. I can now play the measure accurately and repeatedly at a slow tempo. I'm still working on bringing it up the speed and then incorporating it into the rest of the piece. I'm very happy, though, with this progress. This is a measure of music that had almost gotten me depressed because I wondered if I could ever do it. Now with Martin's help, I feel like it is an obstacle that I will overcome, which feels great! Thank you, Martin! 😁😁😁

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    • Eric Phillips Eric I find this very interesting. I am working on a version published by Trinity College of London for their grade 6 music exams (2016 - 2019). In bar 41 the first note is an F (there are only 3 leger lines below it!) That's why I was finding it easy - couldn't figure out why you were finding it harder than me. I wonder how many pupils have gone into the exam playing it incorrectly- or maybe even playing it correctly and being marked down for playing a wrong note! I'm so glad you posted this so I could spot the error in my score. It just show how even publishers you think you can trust can make mistakes.

      You're playing it very well by the way.

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    • Derek Thanks so much, Derek. I wonder if it was intentionally simplified to make it more playable at that level. If so, I have no problem doing that as long as the publisher makes you aware of what was done. Maybe it was just a mistake though.

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    • Eric Phillips hi Eric. I did wonder wonder that. Anyway, I'm glad I found out - although if the slide to the A is too hard I may play the F and point out the error in your version :-)

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    • Eric Phillips Bravo!!👋

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      Eric Phillips Amazing progress, I'm happy that I could be of any help!!! Bravo!

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    • Eric Phillips bravo Eric, you are so patient. I hate playing on these positions and avoid the pieces having them 🙄  

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    • Eric Phillips That sounds really good, Eric. Such a happy delightful piece to get to work on!

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    • Gokce Turkmendag Me too, but I figured that’s why they call it a challenge, so I’m giving it my best. Why don’t classical guitars have cutaways!?

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    • Debbie Thank you, Debbie!

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  • Thank you Eric!  You are progressing great on Maria.  It's a beautiful piece, and I have it on my list to work on as well.  These very melodic Tarrega pieces may seem easy at first sight, but they all have challenges for the player to perform well.  

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  • Dear community members,

    it is wonderful to see and hear how great you all are playing during that challenge! Congartulations! I am looking forward to the progress with your and Martins help.  Unfortunately I had almost no time this week, but now I at least managed to record Lagrima and Adelita. These pieces seem to be common ground for the most, but not for me ;-) ...

    I think it isn´t easy at all to play these pieces with a good sound and feeling, but I work on it, I promise!

    All the best,

    Thomas

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    • Thomas Those were both great, Thomas! I particularly enjoyed Adelita. It’s like you were savoring each note. Very emotional and connected. Well done!👏

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      Thomas I agree with Eric Phillips , these were great! You are further along on Adelita than I am.

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    • Thomas Bravo!!!👋

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    • Thomas Thomas - These are really well played. I like how you play both of them

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    • Eric Phillips Many thanks Eric! I am glad you like them and I also enjoy your videos very much. It is impressing how consequent you practice and take part in this challenge👍

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    • matt Very kind of you, Matt. Let´s work on it for a little more time and I am looking forward to your next version!

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    • Giuseppe Gasparini Gratie, Giuseppe, and congratulations for your version of the study in e-minor! The sound is just great. I never played that piece, but now after listening to you I am eager to learn it. Thank you!

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    • Derek Thank you Derek for the motivation! That helps a lot👍

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      Thomas Bravo Thomas, wonderful! 
      I really enjoyed your moving interpretation of Lágrima, especially how you cherished the 3rd bar in the B-Part. It's always hard to make sense of these notes, the way you pronounced the second note, the high e, was magical!
       Same with Adelita, you show good taste in how the music flows from one bar over to the next! Be careful about the B-Part, you have one wrong bass note, I attached the score and marked it!

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    • Martin Thanks a lot for your evaluation! And you are absolutely right: That bass note was wrong😉. It can be dangerous to play by heart too long, without looking at the scores from time to time....

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    • Thomas I love your Adelita! So beautiful. I am learning this piece too. I can learn a lot from your intepretation of dynamic, Thomas. 

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    • Khiem Nguyen thanks a lot! I am glad you like this version and it would be great to hear yours in the future👍🏻

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  • hi everyone !
    So, I managed to learn the first part of lagrima, and here is a video of me attempting (and failing) to play it. It’s still very clumsy - please be gentle as I’m still in my first months of classical guitar.
    I hope it will become slightly more fluid in the upcoming days!

    Cheers

    didier 

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    • Didier Bravo!! a piece that looks easy but is not, you are on the right track👍

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    • Didier Good job, Didier. Your left hand looked very secure. Those barres in measure 5 are not easy.

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      Didier Bravo, so happy to see you here and what an amazing job after just a couple of months into classical guitar! I think all of us could really see and hear that you really enjoyed the beautiful harmonies of this piece! 

      I made a short video on helping you shifting up and down on the fretboard, securing new positions after shifting can cause some trouble if we execute a stressful shift!

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      Thank you so much Martin and all for the encouragements! And lots of gratitude for the video which is extremely helpful. I’ll keep working on this!

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  • Ok, here's my 2nd update for this week. 

    One thing I found easy: I found this song easy to memorize.  I think because it is so familiar and the harmony and melodies are exactly what you'd expect them to be. 

    One thing I found hard: Surprisingly I'm have issues with the slurs.  I thought I was good at slurs :(

    Here's a video of me playing through Adelita.  Lots of string noise, flubbed notes, missed notes, etc. etc. but that just means I have lots of room to make each subsequent video show improvement. Also still just working on mechanics so not much thought put into music yet.  Also please ignore my hair, still getting covid quarantine cuts from my wife. :D

    https://youtu.be/pIphA8T4euI

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    • matt hi Matt. It's coming along nicely I think.

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      matt Awesome! I do the exact same thing, focus on the mechanics, to get your finger out of the way for the music. Of course, sometimes on thing depends on the other, but in general I like to identify and work on solutions, so I can concentrate on the music!

      I think the slur problem in this piece comes from a very active back-and -orth shif... you know what, you get a video, haha (it's too early on a sunday morning to write an in-depth-description of the mechanics of the left hand)

      Let me know if that helps you! 💪

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    • matt Hey Matt, sounds already very nice to me!

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      Martin Oh wow! Thanks Martin!!  I hadn't even noticed how much movement my left wrist was doing.  I will work on this today!  I'm also intrigued by your little finger activation exercise.  This is also something I wasn't aware needed attention. I am going to go search for your lesson on it. Thanks again for the video! I think this will be a great help.

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      Thomas Thanks for the kind words Thomas!

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      Derek Thank you Derek!

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    • matt Bravo!!👋in addition to Martin's valuable advice, I proposed my version of Adelita here on Tonebase to Rene Izquierdo and he gave excellent suggestions👍

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      Giuseppe Gasparini Thanks Giuseppe! Do you have a link to Rene Izquierdo's advice to you?  I'm sure I could learn from it as well.

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    • matt well done Matt, is sounds nice, keep going!

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    • matt Hi,there he is  ://guitar-community.tonebase.co/t/q6hz105/rene-izquierdo-workshop-excerpt-masterclass-vol-2-feb-20

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      Giuseppe Gasparini matt YES, I wanted to mention that as well, he went into great detail there, you can find it here!

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  • Hello everybody! I have been practicing the first (minor) part of Capricho Arabe since Monday, therefore only recorded one third of it. My plan is to finish the second part this week. I have some difficulties with timing, and not sure that I played correctly. Sorry about the mess on my desktop 🙈

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  • Hello challenge buddies! I'm late in the week with this but better late than never. Sorry for the guitar. I'm in between guitars right now as I just sold the last one and a new one is being shipped to me on Monday 😀

    What I I found easy: I was able to work on this four days this week. I did not find the first page particularly difficult but later when I work more on phrasing and increasing tempo for the fast passages I will have to practice much more. 

    What I found difficult: Playing the intro and the first part of the next section in one go. I finally gave up and did two different takes. I just had too many brain farts. I try to memorize a new piece as I'm working on it so putting it together wasn't working yet. 

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    • Debbie Bravo, very well done👋👋

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    • Debbie now I can see it finally! It's an incredible job for only practising for four days. I have the same problems with timing at the intro, especially on the sextuplets measure. It is not easy to use a metronome with this piece but you can try a few times to understand it clearly.

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    • Debbie Debbie that was beutifully played, well done!

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    • Debbie Wow!  Very impressive for only four days.  Great job!

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    • Debbie Great work, Debbie! Not an easy piece, but it's sounding really good so far. I like the cutaway!

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    • Debbie nicely done Debbie! I can't wait to hear the next part 👍

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    • Giuseppe Gasparini thanks Giuseppe!

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    • Gokce Turkmendag thanks Gokce. I’ve been trying to play along with Tariq to get a feel for the phrasing. I like how he talks about the sections that are supposed to be played capriciously. The sextuplet phrase will sound better once I can increase the tempo on the 32nd notes following the sextuplets. I even have them circled in triplets to better see them. Thanks mentioning it. I will do better my best to work on it 😁

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    • Ron thank you Ron!

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    • Barney thanks Barney! An encouraging compliment coming from someone who plays it so well! Are you going to continue polishing it or work on a different piece?

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    • Debbie I know which parts need work ( watching and listening to the recording playback really helps a lot) and Martin was very kind to suggest (via video) a solution to one of the issues presented.

      So the next piece will be Maria (Gavota), which I hope to record soon.

      I like to mood you a creating on the Capricho.  Keep up the great work!!

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      Debbie Great Debbie! And sorry that this post came in a little bit late due to some automatic filter of our forum software, glad that you were able to share it now! I really enjoy those little details, i.e bar 7-8 where you keep the pinky just a little longer to connect the melody! Great stuff!!!

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    • Martin thank you Martin. And also thanks for being so attentive to the glitch. Cool that you noticed I held that note longer. It was definitely intentional. As I go back through the piece I plan to try and implement more right and left hand preparation. I should probably do that as I learn it from the start but old habits die hard.

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  • I chose a piece I have not played previously, Estudio en forma de Minuetto, although I hope to re-learn Recuerdos de la alhambra later in the Tarrega Challenge.  With Estudio en forma de Minuetto, I'm practicing it sometimes with free stroke, sometimes with rest stroke. It seems like people play it either way. Anyone have  thoughts on that?

    Thanks,

    Neil

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    • Neil Thompson I've heard that Tarrega's style really is to use rest stroke a lot. That said, he did play without nails. so maybe he used a lot of rest stroke for volume. Martin would probably have much better insight, though.

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      Eric Phillips Thanks for your reply     . I believe there are still some who use fingertips and rest stroke. That was the practice in the 1970s at University of New Mexico. 

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      Neil Thompson I am a great lover of a good rest stroke, but it's true that several schools don't use it as often, I talked a little bit about it in yesterday's workshop Rest Stroke DemystifiedFor me, the big musical lines really ask for a more vivid shaping via rest stroke and Eric Phillips remarks are absolutely correct as far as I know!

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  • Hello everybody! congratulations to all of you, beautiful job in your playing!

     

    So, this week I took a look at Lágrima and Estudio en Mi menor. Didn't have time to upload a video until now. I agree with Martin, these are pieces for working on them a long time, trying to figure how to develop them always better.

     

     The next week I'll be working on Capricho Árabe, which I haven't play since a year or so, and I was taking a look at The Variations on the Carnival of Venice, perhaps I'll keep on studying it... I'll tell you if I'm still alive at the end 😂

     

    • What I found difficult: mostly the shifts, I used to do one of the fingerings notated on the Lágrima score, at the penultimate bar of the A section, where was written to do the B 7th chord on the 7th fret. But it was a bit difficult for me, so now I do it on 2nd position. 
    • What I found easy: The Etude was pretty easy to remember. And in Lágrima is almost everything pretty easy with the new fingerings.

    Sorry, for the noise in the background 😅

     

     

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    • Daniel Beautifully done, Daniel! 

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    • Daniel nice job Daniel! I couldn't finish my piece in one week, you already submitted two videos.

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    • Eric Phillips thanks Eric!

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    • Gokce Turkmendag don't worry on that! These two pieces are pretty short and easy to remember. I'm sure you could learn them in one week too! Capricho Árabe, in the other hand, is more complex, and I know you'll do a good job with it this following weeks! When you realize, you'll already have the piece learned! 🙂 

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    • Daniel Bravo, very well done👋

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    • Daniel Well played Daniel - I'm still working on my first piece!

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    • Daniel bravo, well played Daniel!

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      Daniel Thank your for that wonderful submission! I've just revisited Lágrima (for the millionth time) and I discover always new details and approaches I want to bring forward, it's a never ending, yet beautiful story! Glad you are part of this challenge!  💪🧙‍♂️
      Great sounding etude as well! Why all of you are executing that shift into the b-major 7 so flawlessly?!? It's amazing, I even changed my fingering a bit so I can guide myself with the 4th finger into that chord, how all of you can do that so effortless truly surprises me! 🤯

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  • Hi, here is my output after practising Receurdos de la Alhambra the A section this week. I've never managed to get to a level where I'm confident of recording this but using the practise techniques I've learnt over the past few weeks (using Tonebase material) I've managed to get my first recordings done so I'm happy with that. My microphone is not very good so the sound  isn't very good - as well as my mistakes :-). It is amazing how the pressure of a camera makes playing far worse !!  Regards Dennis 

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    • Dennis Greensmith Hey Dennis,  You are very brave to attempt this piece for the challenge.  I think it is one of the most difficult pieces to perform because you need to really master the right hand tremolo so it's even, legato, and well balanced between melody and supporting bass line.  Very tough challenge, but I know you can do it if you practice the tremolo skill carefully and consistently and listen to yourself.  The left hand is easy. Good luck with this one!

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    • Dennis Greensmith Bravo!!!👋

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    • Dennis Greensmith well done! Tremolos are always very challenging for me. Maybe you can practice at a slower tempo at first, and increase gradually after you feel confident. Keep going!

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    • Dennis Greensmith Well played Dennis. Tremolo is still smething that I struggle to get even and consistent

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      Dennis Greensmith Good Job! And how Barney already pointed out, a very brave choice, very well done! I am not a Tremolo guy, but it's still on my bucket list to improve it (my go-to tremolo pattern is pmia, that already tells a lot ...). I'm excited for more submissions from you, well done!

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