BYWEEKLY UPDATES (Section Two, Main Thread) - Submissions, Questions & Discussion

Welcome to the Main Thread for the second section of Santiago de Murcia's "Marizápalos"! 🎉

Every day between February 23th (Week 1 stream) and March 16th (watch party), we are hoping to read your daily updates in this very thread right here!

 

Please use the following format when commenting (feel free to copy & paste!):

  • Section you worked on:
  • One thing you found easy:
  • One thing you found difficult:
  • (Optional): a video of you performing it!
  • (Optional:) questions
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  • Section I worked on: Measures 74-144 

    Something I found easy: Reading the notes at the first time was easy, also not many crazy trills and position changes

    Something I found difficult: Right hand fingering was a little confusing. I was usually changing when playing, very dangeorus I know. Still have time to stabilize it.

     

    We were called back to our offices last wednesday, no more working at home ☹️ I don't have enough time for practising in weekdays anymore, only after dinner. So I had to record it today, although I don't feel ready enough.

     

    I cheated in the recording, you will absolutely notice from my new position, increased tempo, light change and the finished drink on the table 😅

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      Gokce Turkmendag Wooow, so awesome! 👏👏👏 I love the additional ornaments (especially that cross trill) and you really worked your way through that confusing arpeggio style variation! I totally see what you meant by the confusing right hand fingerings, this is a really tricky section (and spoiler alert: the triplet variation doesn't get much better...).
      Sorry to hear that finding practice time gets more difficult, but then you have something to look forward to each day! 🤓 Keep going, the last set of variations will be very, very cool 😎

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      Gokce Turkmendag That's great Gokce. I think you are progressing really well on this. It's a hard challenge!

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    • Gokce Turkmendag yay Gokce! You made it all the way through! That’s a lot o work. Nice job! 

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    • Gokce Turkmendag that’s beautiful, Gokce. 👏I love your tone, soft and bright at the  same time. How do you do that? And your ornamentations are really nice. 

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    • martin thank you for your comment. I peeked at the last part and it looks really scary, but I will do my best. See you on Tuesday. 

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    • Derek thank you Derek! 

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    • Debbie thank you Debbie, take care! 

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    • joosje thank you Joosje, I feel about your playing in the same way. 

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      Gokce Turkmendag wow - great....this piece is really time-consuming 😉

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      Gokce Turkmendag bravo!!! That finish of the section with the x thrilling was great! Good work! Thank you!!!

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    • Olli thank you Olli 🙂

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    • Emma thanks, happy to hear that you liked my cross trill 😊

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    • Derek
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    Still struggling with this. I have now decided to split it into smaller chunks and work on each one of these instead of trying to do too much. I've been working on bars 73 to 91 trying to understand the piece thoroughly. It seems to be going well so hope to post a recording of these tomorrow and continue working on bars 92 to 108 which hopefully will be ready to record on Tuesday.

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      Derek Awesome, we're all looking forward to that! You are right, this part is quite tricky and quite long, the next section will be shorter ... though it has probably more notes in it 😈

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    • Section you worked on: bars 74-144
    • One thing you found easy: holding the Instrument
    • One thing you found difficult: everything else...the piece needs so much time to develop...every time I let my mind flow, my fingers play the wrong notes ... this piece is really fun to play but also needs much more time to be played very fine

    I used to play on my Liuto-forte, this sounds a whole tone higher than notated - but I think the "silverness" in sound gives a very special charme to the piece ( I hope so :o) ....

     

    https://youtu.be/KvW8Jfru2jQ

     

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    • Olli this sounds so beautiful. Thank you for posting. I love the sound of the instrument. And your ornamentation is so natural and gracious.

      I just finished my translation project, had no time for practice and recording. I will start practicing again tomorrow. It’s inspiring to listen to this version.

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      • Olli
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      joosje thank you very much for your kindly words. I hope to hear an upload from you playing with your always lovely tone... 💐🙏🏻😊🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

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      Olli that sounds beautiful!!!! Thank you for posting!!!! So effortless and flowing...

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    • Olli wowwww it is a huge surprise! The sound is beautiful and well played. I want your instrument!!!

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    • Olli that’s lovely Olli! Very nice to hear your Liuto-forte 🙂

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      Olli Awesome! Great! So cool!!! Have you considered to re-string your 4th and 5th string with higher octaves? I always wanted to do that with a spare guitar of mine, but always needed by spare guitar for something else 🧙‍♂️

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      • Olli
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      Martin thank you. I've never thought about changing the octaves 🤔

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      • Derek
      • Derek
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      Olli That's great Ollie - love the lute and the tone is fantastic. Nice haircut too!

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  • Section 2 ( 73-144)

    what I found easy, we agree nothing is really easy when you you dive into the details 

    what I found really difficult: get the music so light and flowing as I imagined it. I keep therefore the capo, so, like Olli, I also pay a whole tone higher. Especially in the last segment ( bar 134-135) this VII th position is a bit uncomfortable 🥵 for the L hand.

    I transposed a few notes , mainly in the 5th variation, following the options given in the manuscript (4th and 5th baroque strings sounding 8va higher.)

    My thoughts on adding trills and diminutions  to these variations: the composer created such inspiring  musical lines, with developing rhythmic patterns. I prefer to play those ‘clean’ and to add only on the resting points.  Although I appreciate it a lot when I hear others play more elaborate ornamentation. Dutch austerity? 😉

    https://youtu.be/gMBPDK94aq0

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