Week 1 - Technical Foundation // May 3

Welcome to the Main Thread for the first week of the virtuosity challenge! This is the place to discuss the Week 1 livestream and post your Week 1 practice updates.


Download the sheet music: in this first week, we will be working with materials from my right-hand technique workshop. Download them here:

Right-hand exercise book (<- click)

See the pinned post below for a specific practice guide featuring all the exercises we talked about during today's livestream!


Since this challenge is all about virtuosity, video updates are more highly encouraged than usual. Feel free to upload the video in the reply OR simply link to your YouTube video.

 

YouTube video submissions CAN be unlisted. Just make sure they're not set on "private", so we can actually see them.

 

If you want to describe your process, feel free to use the following template.

  • Exercise(s) you have been working on:
  • Things you found easy:
  • Things you found difficult:

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  • I worked on all exercises . Not so much time this week.Today I recorded a few. They’re still uploading. Don’t know why it takes so much time. Here are 3C and 5B.

    I have a time problem and nail issue, because of y moving this month from Czech Republic to Belgium. I’ll do my best to follow up on the challenge 

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      • MirceaTeam
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      • Mircea
      • 2 yrs ago
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      joosje this is sounding so good!!! Congratulations on getting this done, and especially with nail trouble. What's been happening on the nail front, what kind of issue are you having? (No pressure to share if you don't want to - just wondering if I can help in any way!)

      Here is some targeted advice:

      5B: this is sounding really really good! I'm noticing some very slight unevenness in the i-m on single strings. Interestingly, this didn't occur on the chromatic exercise before, which makes me think that it might be related to the string changes! Just keep an eye on controlling the individual duration of every note to make it flow even better than it already does.

      If you could show me a bit more of your right hand in subsequent updates, that might be useful! What I'm hearing is very fluid sound and even tone, but I'm not sure if there is any unnecessary movement or tension in your hand that we might be able to tackle to go even to the next level!

      Quick question: what's that device you have attached to the tuning mechanism? I don't think I've ever seen one before - it reminds me of the double bass extension!

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    • Mircea thanks for your comments and advice. A lot to work on. 
      Quick answers: nails were getting thinner lately and I scratched them a little with packing and cleaning jobs, so I had to file a bit more. I think it saved them. After I tried to give them the right shape as shown, the sound is not yet back.. (a bit shorter than normal, it will grow back in no time I oil them and take good care....

       

      the device is indeed for a seventh string, which I use regularly in Baroque music, also Mertz and Coste. I used to play in a duo with both an extra string, we used in a Schubert transcription. I took the string of for a while, because I put up a set of hard tension Savarez, it might be to much tension together.....

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      • MirceaTeam
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      • Mircea
      • 2 yrs ago
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      joosje wow, that is very cool! Thanks for explaining! And happy to hear your nails are most likely saved, too!

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  • 1st week is over, but I was recording today, after I had had organizational problems. Moving house is a hectic job, and bad for my nails. I managed until now to keep them but they are getting shorter...
    But anyway, here are the other updates of my 1st week practice.

    Mircea. I would be happy to have your comments. I kept it moderate tempo. I feel and see the tension in both L and R hand pinky when I go faster. If I play a fast arpeggio without preparation the R pinky goes smoothly with the a finger. If I prepare, it feels sort of isolated and becomes more rigid.... L hand fingers 3-4 move too far from the string up tempo, I can’t stop them...

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      • MirceaTeam
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      • Mircea
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      joosje This is sounding good!

      I see what you mean about the pinky - it does get just the sliiightest bit tense while you play. I think it's the entire right side of your hand though, rather than just the finger itself.

      I think what might be happening is the same as what was happening to Eric before. Your hand might not be used to the amount of preparation you are doing now, and it hasn't yet found an angle at which it can play pluck every string comfortably. What I'm seeing is that at the very beginning of the preparation movement, it tends to "rush" to the strings a bit to get there on time, and it doesn't quite reach the angle at which you would be able to play all strings without moving.

      Try the following: practice 1A in front of a mirror or while recording yourself. Then practice 2B and stop right after you prepare the fingers after a pattern.

      Then compare the shape and position of your hand. Is your hand in the exact same position where it was for 1A? Then it will be comfortable to play all strings. Is it in a different position? Then it will be tense.

      (This is not the end, it's possible for your initial playing angle to be good and to still get tense throughout the pattern - but in your case, I think what I'm seeing is an initial tension caused by the angle more than a generalized problem after that.)

      What you might also try is to bring the palm of your hand just a little bit further forward, to allow the a to have a better angle of attack - start with your regular preparation position, then just move your palm a little forward, like in the video I made for Eric at the bottom of this thread.


      When it comes to the rest stroke, this is also sounding really great! We have a bit of a different issue here (although it's sounding quite nicely), where the palm of your hand wobbles a little from left to right. It seems that the palm is trying to compensate a little bit for a movement that could be coming from just the fingers themselves.

      I see you've been training your extensor muscles to allow your fingers to go far away from the string when they do their "opposite motion" (while the other finger is playing), which is great! But make sure you're only using your fingers for that, not the entire palm. If the palm wobbles, you'll lose agility and high speeds will make it more tense.

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  • Dear Friends,

    I have been practising 30 minutes to 1 hour everday, since the challenge started. I couldn't increase the speed as much as I expected, especially for the rest strokes. My progression is as follows:

    1A: from 110 to 120, 1C: from 85 to 90, 2A-B:from 85 to 90, 3A:from 70 to 75, 3B:from 85 to 105, 3C:from 70 to 70, 5A:from 75 to 80, 4E & 5B:none

    I was always confused and make mistakes while taking the video of Exercise 5B, until I gave up. I took only a few measures in order not to bore you. 

    I also have a funny pinky finger, as seen on the video. It wants to runaway from my hand, and it is very hard to keep it in place while playing. Any suggestions? In the second video I found a solution for that, but maybe not a good idea.

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    • Gokce Turkmendag when I play fast I find it handy to fold it back in some situation, I'll show you when I find time to post a video.

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    • Blaise Laflamme I will be very glad if you show me, thank you. 

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    • Gokce Turkmendag I can't tell you if that's the cuban way though 😆... I also tend to fold up the ring finger (a) when playing fast and not using it, it naturally goest there. Until then you can watch my Toccatina Chromati video in the composition challenge, while it's not as fast as what I'm talking about, I still do it when doing the p-i-m pattern, and you see the fingers forming a block when doing chords. Doing this also for Brouwer's study #1, I think I'll post a video of it later this week. BTW you're doing great!

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    • Gokce Turkmendag Brava congratulations, somewhere for the little finger they advised to tie together with the ring finger👋😊

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    • Blaise Laflamme I watched it, very good technique indeed, and fast enough for me. I'll try playing with folding both fingers. Thanks BTW 🙂

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    • Giuseppe Gasparini thanks Giuseppe, I am considering gluing them literally for good 😀

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      • MirceaTeam
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      • Mircea
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Gokce Turkmendag this is great! Thank you for posting these, Gokce. I'm going to make some targeted comments on some of these exercises, and then we'll dive into the right-hand pinky question! Let's do this.

      1C: Aim for just the tiniest bit more volume! You could project a little more here.

      2A: Don't put the thumb down before you're ready to begin the next pattern. No preparation until you start the next chord.

      2B: Make sure you are totally even with rhythm - it got pretty stable after the first chord, but it tends to go back and forth between in time and slightly out of time.


      3A: Alright, for this and the other rest stroke exercises, let's talk about the pinky!

      What I am seeing here is a lot of tension caused by the angle of attack. The pinky is only a symptom, rather than the cause of the tension.

      When you play rest stroke in this angle, it is easier to change strings regardless of fingering (so basically, regardless of whether you're doing direct or indirect changes), and it's also slightly easier to go through the strings faster, resulting in a more tinny but also more percussive sound.

      However, it is less comfortable for your wrist. Look at that almost 90° angle it needs to achieve in order to play in this position! The unnaturalness of that position is a large part of what is causing this tension.

      More importantly, I feel like the tension is already there in the pinky (and, I'm assuming, invisible but similar tension at the root of the thumb, on the other side of the hand), even before you play.

      That is the kind of habit that we have to fight against, because there is no need for your fingers to be tense at all if you are not playing.

      I think that rest stroke is just causing your hand to feel like it needs to be tense, even before you play a note - perhaps due to the higher effort required for making the nail go through the string, or perhaps due to the uncomfortable angle of your palm.

      This means, however, that we can tackle this even before you play. Place your hand in position for playing rest stroke. Use your left hand and grab the pinky, wiggling it around. Grab the whole palm, in fact. See if you can stay in the same position without that tension that forms at both ends of the hand.

      Once you've achieved a relaxed and comfortable RH position for rest stroke, start doing any rest-stroke exercise from the first week with open strings only. Then, while you play, gently touch your hand with your other hand. Is it still tense? When does the tension start? See if you can conserve that non-tense feeling you've achieved before playing while you play, too.

      More importantly, start experimenting with a different RH position - perhaps one where you don't need your wrist to be at quite such an extreme angle for rest stroke. It is possible to make this one work, but it will be a bit less comfortable from that point of view.


      Folding the fingers into the hand might work as a band-aid solution, however, long term, it can only serve as a stepping stone.

      It's a little dangerous, because you are no longer seeing the symptoms of the tension, but most likely, the tension is still there - at least for the time being.

      You might be able to use this as a way to trick your hand into being less tense, but if you do, you have to be extra careful and sensitive that you're not still holding onto tension that is now visually invisible.

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    • Mircea thank you so much for sparing time for my video and comments. If you remember my Cavatina performance in the virtual masterclass, I had similar problem in free stroke too, but I've been trying to overcome it since then. It is important to watch yourself when playing, you hardly notice the problems while playing. I'll try your advice and find a comfortable angle without tension, and watch my hand more often.

      I love these sessions so much, it is a great opportunity to detect our problems and progress our playing. Thank you again!

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      • MirceaTeam
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      • Mircea
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Gokce Turkmendag wonderful, so happy to hear you've been enjoying them! 😁

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