Carlevaro - General Discussion
This discussion group will be focused on the great Uruguayan Maestro, Abel Carlevaro. Maestro Carlevaro was the creator of an innovative School of Guitar and an important composer for the classical guitar. This Group will be an open forum where we can discuss his School of Guitar as well as explore some of his technical exercises, studies and composition.
Let us know what you would like this Group to discuss!
Suggested Study Guides
- Alfredo Escande: Understanding Abel Carlevaro
- Alfredo Escande: The Left Arm in the Carlevaro Technique!
- Alfredo Escande: Abel Carlevaro Library
- Abel Carlevaro's School of Guitar by Alfredo Escande (English subtitles)
- Abel Carlevaro: The Music of the Rio de la Plata
- Abel Carlevaro: Guitar MasterClass
- Abel Carlevaro: Buy compositions and technical books
- Gaelle Solal: Carlevaro Left Hand Technique Course
- Abel Carlevaro: School of Guitar PDF
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Dale Needles Moyses Lopes Steve Price Welcome to the brand new Group about Carlevaro's School of Guitar! As previously discussed in the other thread, how do we want the other topics been organized. I think as a base we could have generic-oriented topics like Video Performance, Technique or separate RIght-Hand Technique and Left-Hand Technique, Compositions, etc... as an example. Lets say we have generic arcs and then we can create specific topics as the discussion goes on in the generic ones.
As an example, lets suppose I want to share my video of «Campo», then I'll share it under Video Performance, then people start to discuss a lot about it, and about the other Preludios, then we create an new a topic on «Carlevaro - Preludios Americanos» to separate the specific interest.
Make sense, food for thought?
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Blaise Laflamme So glad to see this up and happy you agreed to be the moderator. My suggestion for the threads is to start simple with three: General Discussion, Technique and Compositions and build on them as we gather interest. I would not do Video performance as a stand alone thread since there can be video performance for both technique and compositions. Does that make sense?
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Dale Needles I totally agree with this, lets start with those 3 topics!
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Blaise Laflamme Excellent!
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Dale Needles As Blaise, I totally agree with starting with those 3 topics! I'm very excited about this experience, I'm sure this will be great!
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Moyses Lopes Dale Needles I just created the other topics, if you have a better description to provide for them, as I mostly added a generic one, I'll be happy to update.
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Just a thought, but maybe something that could pinned to the top of the discussion would be a recommendation of how to proceed. He has so much pedagogic material, it's a little overwhelming to me. I've seen primary exercises (in multiple versions), the microestudios, quadernos, the escuela itself, some masterclasses online, etc. all of which are readily available, but without more idea of what makes sense as a practical course of study, I haven't worked on the material as much as some other things.
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Steve Price sure, or maybe in the description or create a Read me first / FAQ thread with that specific info like Martin is doing with the challenges? Dale Needles Moyses Lopes
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Blaise Laflamme Steve Price Moyses Lopes First, as far as Read me First, I would rather say simply "Suggested study guides" and include the Two Tonebase workshops by Alfredo Escandi, a link to Carlevaro's Master Class on Youtube, Carlevaro's book, School of Guitar and his Cuadernos, and maybe the article that I wrote on Carlevaro as part of the Latin American Challenge.
As far as goals and target audiences, I think that the goal is very simple, to increase one's understanding and appreciation of Carlevaro the composer and pedagogue. As for target audience, anyone who has an interest in Carlevaro.
As for how one is to begin to approach Carlevaro's School of Guitar, that is a good question which we can build upon on the General Discussion thread and on the Technical Discussion thread.
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Dale Needles that sounds good. For target audience I was thinking more of the individual works. For example, I don't know if the quadernos are for beginners or if there are prerequisites before I dive in. Just spitballing here and I'm looking forward to this.
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Steve Price With the right guidance, the Cuadernos can be used with beginning level students, but they do need to be accompanied with an understanding of their nuances and their underlying principles. Hopefully, we will get into some of that in the Technique thread.
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Dale Needles can you share the link of Carlevaro's masterclass, I'm not sure about the one you're referring to? For the book links, from which vendor you would refer to, as I understand there are no authorized «free» copy out there?
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Dale Needles I agree that trying to make an exhaustive categorization of Carlevaro's work by level, audience, etc... would be an enormous task and can probably only be envisioned in a mid-long term goal. However this discussion group, as an organic vector, would help a lot towards this goal as we participate and share our knowledge, tips and experiences.
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Blaise Laflamme Here is the Youtube Link to Carlevaro's Masterclass. Please note that he begins by playing the first five Microestudios and then goes into an introductory lesson on his technique. (1319) Abel Carlevaro : Guitar MasterClass - YouTube
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Dale Needles perfect, done with the other links in this thread description at the top.
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Blaise Laflamme You can post the Preston Music/Chanterelle link which is where one can buy most Carlevaro's compositions and technical books including the Cuadernos (Barry Publication) and the School of Guitar (multiple languages).
Sheet Music - Search: Abel Carlevaro (page 1 of 5) | Presto Music
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Dale Needles Done!
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Blaise Laflamme Perfect!!! I just sent the link for his publications.
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Blaise Laflamme I wasn't suggesting cataloging all of his works (although that could be interesting), just specifically the pedagogic ones since there may be others like me who have no idea where to begin. For example, some of the microestudios are pretty straightforward, but there are also some with some notation I'm not familiar with both in the original and his hand-marked edited versions. I understand he's calling for some specific articulation, but I don't know which of his other works or videos explains it (assuming any of them do). Maybe if I had worked a particular quaderna first I already would have been taught that. I really don't know. That's the sort of thing I meant as far as an audience or level. Maybe a recommended order would be a better way to put it for the video masterclass, his escuela, microestudios, preliminary exercises, quadernos, and/or other works. If there's not a logical progression through it, that's fine too, but it would be good to know that. If we're assuming a certain familiarity with his teachings that's one thing, but if it's about introducing new people to this material then making it easier to understand and navigate would seem to make sense. Plus, some of the editions aren't cheap so having a guideline for people so they know they're getting something that fits both in terms of time and money seems to be important.
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Steve Price sorry if my comment sounded like I presumed you were saying this but in any case this is a great and good idea. I agree with what you're saying and as I previously said to Dale, I think this is something that we'll build over time with the level of participants and their interests. I think, at the moment, the best way for someone to start, and for any level, is to participate in this group by sharing ideas and asking questions. I've personally worked with the technical books many years ago to improve different aspects (position, right and left hands, timbers, colors, ...) while reading the theoretical book that explains very well all his concepts. I'm actually working on his Preludios Americanos but not as an extension of his technical approach but as musical material and I inevitably use many of his concepts as I previously integrated a lot of them
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Steve Price Blaise Laflamme
Great questions. My own opinion would be to start with the Cuadernos accompanied by his book School of Guitar. That is how the Maestro introduced his technical ideas to me and to many other of his students Let's pick up this conversation in the Technical thread.
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Dale Needles That sounds good Dale. I'll post a question there to start it off.
Also, I don't know if Blaise Laflamme can do it as moderator, but if you all want to get rid of some of the messages here about setting up the group to clean up the clutter, I'm good with it. I can delete my own messages if needed. I was going to add a reply to Dale here about how I got interested in Carlevaro.
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Steve Price no need to delete this is part of the process and if someone wants to know how it all started then everything is there! I think we can split some discussions as another topic so this is something we can do eventually, but this is «General Discussion»!
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Blaise Laflamme Sounds good, Blaise. Excited to see how it goes and for myself I'm looking forward to finally dig into this more. Thanks.
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Dale Needles , Blaise Laflamme , Steve Price Hey, guys! A lot of activity here! I was away just for some hours and voilá, the discussion thread is full of great ideas. As said Dales, it's time to go to the Technical thread. See you there!
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