Vibrato for chords (how I approach it)

Hi! I hope this video on how I approach vibrato for chords will be of interest and utility! 

Be sure to comment on what you think about it, and if you have a different take or way of working on vibrato, I'd be very interested in reading you!! 

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    • magmasystems
    • 21 hrs ago
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    Thank you for taking the time to create this video. You are a really valuable resource to all of us guitarists here.

    It was interesting to me to see you wiggling (or waggling) your finger from side to side. I always played vibrato by moving my finger vertically instead of horizontally. I just tried an experiment by putting my 3rd finger on the 5th fret of the 6th string (the low A) and wiggling it both horizontally and vertically. I could not tell much of a difference in the vibrato that I was getting.

    I am wondering if you have any guidance about wiggling vertically vs horizontally?

      • Performer, Teacher @Conservatory M. de Falla and member of Nuntempe Ensamble GQ
      • Ariel.1
      • 21 hrs ago
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       Thanks for your kind words, Marc! I am glad to be of service. I do feel that, since music is one of the best things we have as human beings, sharing anything that can help other felkows find their way into making and enjoying music more easy and beautiful is a kind of duty. 

      If I understood you right (which i'm not 100% sure), then my answer would be that vibrato is about pulling and pushing the string back and forth so that you untune the suond towards both ends. You change the pitch by making the string more tense and less tense (as if you were doing it from the tuning pegs. That's why i do it horizontally. Because I want the actual pitch to be the center of the vibrato. 

      If I understood you right, by doing the vibrato vertically (like pulling the string sideways towards the other strings like in electric guitar bending?) you only untune towards a higher pitch thus making the center of the vibrato untuned (sharper) in constrast with the clear sound with no vibrato. 

      Does this sound right to you? Did I understand you correctly? Is this an answer to your actual question? There is a chapter on Vibrato in Tonebase. I don't remember by who but I know it worked on the same premises that I do.  

      • magmasystems
      • 20 hrs ago
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       Actually, because of my imprecise wording, you had it backward. By "vertically", I meant bending the 6th string down towards the 5th string and then back to the original position. By "horizontally", I meant moving the joint of the finger towards the 6th fret and then back again to the 5th fret ... almost like you were dragging the string towards the bridge.

      I almost never use vibrato ... I know how to apply it, but I always fear that a piece might sound too "sappy" by the application of too much vibrato. I feel the same fear about rolled chords ... at what point does the application of a rolled chord feel too "sappy"? (I hope that you understand the concept of "sappiness". I don't know if there is an equivalent term in Spanish... sensiblero, tontuelo?)

      • magmasystems
      • 20 hrs ago
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      Actually, reading your answer again, I think that you did not get it backward... my apologies.

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      • Ariel.1
      • 19 hrs ago
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       said:
      I almost never use vibrato ... I know how to apply it, but I always fear that a piece might sound too "sappy" by the application of too much vibrato. I feel the same fear about rolled chords ... at what point does the application of a rolled chord feel too "sappy"? (I hope that you understand the concept of "sappiness". I don't know if there is an equivalent term in Spanish... sensiblero, tontuelo?)

       It's a pity you don't ... I think that it's an expressive element that we must manage as any other. For me, coming from a family with a violinist and a cellist, vibrato is a thing that I decide where NOT to apply it. Of course there are different types and if you use the wrong one, we sound like a very bad singer.  Cyndi, you may be interested with this, too:

      I think there are 3 variables to vibrato. Width, speed and preassure. The first too are a bit obvious (how fast I wiggle/waggle) and how wide, the first speaks to the velocity of the wave of vibrato and the second to the amount of untuning I put in place. The preassure is a tricky one. The vibrato is performed by the adherence of the finger to the string. The more adherence it has, the more the string follows the finger's wiggling/waggling. So, preassure would regulate what would be the "mix" in a chorus or flanger pedal. 

      Regarding rolled chords, Marc, I don't use them much either. I feel the hay three functions and should be applied only when they succeed in fulfilling any of those. 

      1) as an embelishment for a very important chord or harmony. 

      2)as a way to dilute tempo (when you roll the listeners kinda looses the feeling of where the bit exactly is) this is usefull when you perform rubato. 

      3) to mark some voice that I want to play especially in some way or the other. So, to clear the polyphony. 

      If it's not for some of these reasons I never roll chords. I had never heard it "sappy" but intuitively I guess yes, that would be a possible translation.

    • cindy
    • 20 hrs ago
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    Thank you for the excellent explanation of vibrato - from a single note to whole chord.  I never knew about the ability of the finger to move sideways below the middle joint nor to keep the pressure soft.  THe exercises are also very helpful.  I'm already sounding better. 

      • Performer, Teacher @Conservatory M. de Falla and member of Nuntempe Ensamble GQ
      • Ariel.1
      • 20 hrs ago
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       great! thanks for sharing that!! I'm happy to help! Have fun!! :-)

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