Demystifying Concierto de Aranjuez: Tips and Fingerings (Mar 26) Questions / Suggestions
Alright, everyone, many of you have been requesting it - especially this week - therefore, it's finally time to do it! 
Great masterpiece of guitar & orchestra repertoire: here we go!
All of us can learn things that apply to our current level of musical and technical proficiency from all music, even that which may initially appear above our current level.
As I so often say in my livestreams, the essence of good technique and musicianship is not to be able to do superhuman things, but to simplify everything down to the point where it becomes trivial.
And in Concierto de Aranjuez, there are quite a few small things that can make our life so much easier (and the music so much more straightforward!) that it is absolutely worth going over them. So let's do it!
We are going to be looking at both musical and technical aspects, and short selections from all three movements.
If you'd like me to concentrate on a particular section or movement, let me know right here in the thread!
Find the start time in your time zone by clicking the photo or following this event link:
https://app.tonebase.co/guitar/live/player/demystifying-aranjuez
We are going to be using this thread to gather suggestions and questions!
- What questions do you have on this topic?
- Any particular area you would like us to focus on?
Performing Rodrigo's masterpiece for guitar and orchestra can seem like an impossible task. However, with the help of a few intelligent musical choices and fingerings, it can become easier than you might think. Join tonebase instructor Mircea Gogoncea for this livestream, in which he will share some of the most useful and musically relevant conclusions from his own vast performance experience of this work.
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Hi Mircea, I will not be available to watch this one live (will watch later), but would kindly address questions on 4 separate sections. Please see attachment with green brackets for each section referenced below:
1. Mvt 1: opening Rasgueados What is best Right hand fingering? (also can you tell from Angel Romero's online performance what his RH is doing?)
2. Mvt2: The Rasgueados high up on neck at fret XI. How to handle right and left hands so they are clear and powerful.
3. Mvt3: 16th note 4 note figures -what and how to execute right hand fingering so the sound is continuous and flowing evenly.
4. Mvt3: Similar question to 3 above regarding RH fingering for best continuous sound.
I look forward to watching this session later and your suggestions for these sections. Thanks!
Best,
Barney
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Barney These are great questions, Barney!!! I will address all of them in the upcoming livestream
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Also, What is the best orchestral backing track available to play along with this piece? Thanks!!
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Here are the links to a young Angel Romero playing it live (in case any you you haven't seen these)
Mvt 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPAUL-sP09o
Mvt 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0tY8REYdYE
Mvt 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TIL60UYNmk
Angel's masterful fiery playing of this piece has always been my personal favorite from way back, and still now.
(didn't his Rodriguez guitar sound great? We can understand why the Romeros family played on Rodriguez guitars for many years...)
Enjoy!
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Barney wonderful, Barney! Thank you for these. Looking forward to tomorrow a lot!
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Mircea tenho uma Manuel Rodriguez topo comprada emEspanha e acho estupenda guitarra
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talvez fosse melhor dedicar 3 sessões a este tema 1 para cada movimento tenho pena que a tonebase tenha retirado todas as masters de Rodrigo ...as de Rene estavas magnificas um abraço
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não vou poder estar mas vou ver com muita atenção posteriormente.... bom trabalho
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In the 2nd mvt, the long cross-string trill on 4th & 5th bass string (between notes "d" and "d flat"), is there a trick to getting this trill up to speed? I have no problem with the previous one (on note"e")using regular slurs. Thanks1
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Sorry--between notes "d" and "e flat".
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recentemente estive a ler e estudar a teses de Matt Palmer em que digitou as principais passagens da obra em ami e acho um magnifico recurso para dar fluidez a toda a obras...poderiam tb abordar este tema na master....... já sei que Mirca não gosta de ami mas.......funciona bastante bem pelo menos para mim
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Hi Mircea I doubt that I will ever play this piece (especially with an orchestra) I do have the score (for guitar and piano reduction) I just wonder if there are any midi files for the orchestral (or piano reduction) parts available that you would recommend. I could make my own but it's a lot of work. It would be interesting to try out at least a part of this wonderful piece.
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sim eu tenho mas tocar aobra com midi não é a mesma coisa .....na obra o solista és tu e a orquestra deve seguir-te com o midi é precisamente o contrario
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I watched the recorded livestream, which was awesome! Thank you so much for answering the questions I presented in the forum!
Since this piece has so much meaty material in each of the movements, it would be great to do 3 additional livestreams (one for each movement), which as you know has many technical issues as well as requiring sound musical direction and considerations.
Of course this is my opinion and only makes sense only if enough people feel they could benefit.
This is a great piece, and I can never get sick of it, no matter how many times I've seen/heard it.
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Hi, sadly missed much of the session. Cannot find the link to this? Can you help?
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Bill Dodd It should be in the Community section under Live Events then click Past events.
Mircea it was fantastic! I just spent the morning learning the first page of the Concerto. Only 26 more pages to go! :)
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Hi Mircea,
For the 16th note figures in questions 3 &4 that you suggested using AMI tremolo; are you using Free stroke tremolo or Rest stroke tremolo? It looks like free stroke, but wanted to confirm because of the volume needed to be produced. Thanks!
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Barney I use apoyando tremolo, however, a large portion of the passage takes place on the 6th string, where AMI apoyando can only be implied, rather than executed. Hope this helps!
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It would be great for you to do a live stream separately for each of the three movements. I hope others show interest in this great work. You did such a fantastic job with this one, I'm sure the advanced players would certainly benefit from your experience and advice for this piece. Thanks Mircea!!!
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Barney I agree!
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@Jaimejá fiz essa proposta ao Mirca pode ser que aceite
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Barney Jaime ajcraimundo thank you everyone! I'm very happy to hear you are all interested in this! We'll make it happen!
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Hi there Mircea
Are your annotated versions of the second and third movement perhaps available? Thanks.
Regards,
Brent
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