WEEK 1: Dóbroje útro (Good Morning)!

Welcome to the Main Thread for the first week of the Nikita Koshkin challenge! This is the place for the Week 1 Submissions!


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  • Study 6

    Well, after about an hour of practice, I can at least play through the piece now, albeit VERY slowly and with MANY mistakes.

    What was easy: Does not apply

    What was difficult: Everything, but especially ...

    • The right hand articulation in measures 5-11 and 21-22.
    • The opening four measures (which also repeat at the end) just don't sound very good to me, and I think it's more than just the slow speed. Again, it's that right hand articulation which is so new to me.

    I do at least feel like I'm making some progress. Many thanks to Blaise and Joosje for their encouragement! 🙏

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    • Eric Phillips Nice job on this Eric!   These are not so easy, and your performance shows great discipline, accuracy and even tempo.  As usual, your are amazing at getting it done with  limited time.  Congrats!

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    • Eric Phillips you definitely are making progress, as Barney says you show great discipline and also steadiness, bravo!

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    • Eric Phillips Wow beautiful!!!! So clean and rhythmic. Liked it very much and this is a lot of progress.

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    • Emma Thank you Emma!

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    • Eric Phillips Your progress is very impressive. Your discipline in approaching these studies is an an aspiration (or should be - I really need to take note). 

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    • Jack Stewart Thank you, Jack. I honestly wish I had more discipline. When I watch my hands in this video (especially my right hand) I see all kinds of problems.

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  • Here is my current status on Study #6.  These studies, with their modern tonality, are more difficult for me to commit to muscle memory, and therefore require more time to perform without errors at suggested tempo.  They are really cool, so wanted to try a few from the second half of the set.  So out of time to work more on this one.  On to the next...?

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    • Barney Sorry, It looks like I played wrong Chords in measures 25 & 26.  Just noticed in playback.

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    • Barney Good job, Barney! You are definitely further along with this one than I am. I like the tempo, articulation, and variation in tone color very much.

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    • Eric Phillips Thanks Eric!  I'm not used to playing this type of repertoire and having some difficulty "connecting" to it musically.  I like the challenge though from a technical standpoint.

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    • Barney oh yeah... I'm happy you joined the challenge, this is great to see you playing this kind of music! As a side note, I found those studies really well written and the easier ones help building progressively the knowledge and technique to play the harder ones up to the end. Waiting for you next submissions!

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    • Blaise Laflamme Thanks Blaise!  I agree about the progression, so I played through the earlier ones to check them out accordingly.  I thought I would benefit most from concentrating on some of the studies in the second half of the set with the limited time available (unfortunately, some life stuff is getting in the way).

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    • Barney that's a good plan! I'm also limited by time unfortunately, but I hope to at least record #1 to #6 and if time permits #10 😬. Waiting for your next updates 🤞

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    • Barney very well played, and it is quite difficult. Bravo!!!

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    • Emma  Thanks very much Emma!

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    • Blaise Laflamme I look forward to your submissions for this challenge.    I always enjoy your great playing and sound quality!

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    • Barney already have two done... trying to record #3 now 😬

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    • Barney nice to hear you play this quite modernistic piece. Barney. Well done. I like your pizzicato sound in 27 and overall the phrasing and coloring. You didn’t opt for the staccato in this bass passage, but you separate the voices really well.  

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    • Blaise Laflamme Just listened to them.  Beautiful performance and sound!!  Are those the Ribbon Mics in action?

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    • joosje Thanks Joosje!  Which measure are your referring to about staccato?

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    • Barney yes for the current Koshkin session I'm using a stereo ribbon in fixed Blumlein + a Rode NT4 stereo cardioid in fixed X/Y.

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    • Blaise Laflamme Sounds great!

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    • Barney thanks for the appreciation... I can say the same about your sound, it's always clear and well balanced as your performances!

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      • Brett Gilbert
      • Piano and classical guitar
      • Brett_Gilbert
      • 4 wk ago
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      Barney Great to hear you recording these more advanced studies.  Sounds great.  Had a technical question: which FX are using to get the "reverb" effect in reaper?  The number of FXs is a bit overwhelming, I was hoping to find something to simulate being in a larger room or small concert hall.

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    • Blaise Laflamme Thanks very much!

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    • Brett Gilbert Thanks!  Nimbus Reverb.

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    • Barney Bravo Barney. That was really impressive!

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    • Jack Stewart Thanks Jack!!

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  • I have finally finished up Study #1 with reduced (not eliminated) squeaks and added dynamics and rubato. Although I can play it at the suggested tempo I prefer the sound a bit slower, around 76 or so. I've grown to really like the piece and I will keep playing it. Now, on to #2. I have worked out some fingerings and am working to get the somewhat unfamiliar chord shapes under my fingers. I truly wish I had more time to play these, but the demands of my ensemble music limit that a bit. These are great studies, though, and I plan to work through as many as my abilities allow.

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  • Etude No 3. I already made a post about the difficulties of this study and here is my recording just on time before the second week. Now I will practice this one and number 4

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    • Emma bravo Emma! very well done 💪

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    • Emma Nice playing Emma!  I like your phrasing and tone quality!

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    • Emma Excellent, Emma! You maintained a good moving tempo throughout, even in the trickier spots. I found myself slowing down at spots with this one (without wanting to).

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    • Emma  glad to  hear this, Emma. Well done. The theme comes in very clear every time and the whole piece sounds rhythmical and secure. Good submission.

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      • Brett Gilbert
      • Piano and classical guitar
      • Brett_Gilbert
      • 4 wk ago
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      Emma Thanks for posting #3, it sounds great.  Very smooth and you kept the brisk tempo.  I just started working on this and it's tough (for me), but nice to see it so played so well.  I saw your earlier post about some of the initial difficulties which I'll watch out for.

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    •  Blaise Laflamme Brett Gilbert Eric Phillips joosje Barney @@@@@thank you all for watching and giving me encouragement and support. This is indeed a great community. My goal was to play it a tempo as I struggle with speed. I was having trouble to memorise this one so the recording was a bit more shaky that it should have been but I think I need to move on, no 4 and possible 5? 

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    • Emma well done Emma. That's very good

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    • Emma this study is definitely hard to play at the suggested tempo, fingers don't follow up your mind as it speeds up. I agree with #4 and #5, two beautiful studies!

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    • Emma wonderful performance Emma.

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    • Emma Very nice! Thanks for that, Emma.

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    • Emma Sounds great!

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  • Study 6 Update

    Here's where I'm at after today's practice session. The tempo is up a bit, and I feel a little more controlled. The same sections are still my weak spots (measures 5-11 and 21-22) but maybe they are a little improved. Sorry the lighting is rather poor.

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    • Eric Phillips what an improvement... wow... and you got a better sound, what have you changed?

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    • Eric Phillips great achievement, Eric. Really wonderful  sound and energy. I  like your coloring and timing.. congratulations  If I’m allowed one remark: in m 1-2 and at the end you play the chords on  beat 3 and 4 both staccato. I have a feeling they d contrast more with a short-long effect. 

      I also played the (arpeggiated) chords in M 12-15/23-26 first with p, but a rasgueado, like Marina does, sounds good too

      Lets. meet again at study# 9

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    • Blaise Laflamme Thanks, Blaise! The only thing different for sound is a different room. Apparently you like the sound better in my living room and not my dining room, where I usually record.

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    • joosje Thanks Joosje! I agree that the double-stop at the end of measures 1-2 is written as a regular quarter note, which goes along with Koshkin’s short-long motif that way. I just don’t like the way it sounds, and prefer them both staccato. As for the rolled chords, I tried a few ways and settled on what I did. I like Marina’s way, but I was not able to do it. That said, it seems to me that she does not play all those chords long as written either.

       I’m not sure if #9 will be in the cards for me! I’ll give it a shot, though.

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      • Brett Gilbert
      • Piano and classical guitar
      • Brett_Gilbert
      • 4 wk ago
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      Eric Phillips I was gone for a few days but nice to see #6 coming along so well, impressive.   I really like this one (in my top 3 favs) but it looks like a large step up in difficultly from earlier ones.  

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    • Eric Phillips spot on!!! Energetic and you give the colours of Koshkin! I was was listening to him yesterday and the sounds and wonderful noises he produces! This is very good Eric

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    • Brett Gilbert Thanks, Brett! I am finding it to be difficult, but mostly because I have never really done right hand articulation like this. If you are good at that, though, maybe you wouldn’t find it as difficult.

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    • Emma Thank you so much, Emma!

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    • Eric Phillips wonderful progress Eric. I think it would take me weeks (months even) to get it to that level! (That's if I would even attempt it)

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    • Derek It hit me like a brick wall at first, but once I started analyzing the problem and targeting my practice, I was able to make some chips in the wall.

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    • Eric Phillips Very nice steady pulse and articulation!

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  • Ok here's my today's take on Study #3... again harder than the previous ones and also more mistakes... like a low E coming in for nothing and a rough end... but that's life! 😂
    https://youtu.be/iB49X1zlQH4

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    • Blaise Laflamme Nice again Blaise!  Are those the Beyerdynamic DT880 Pro headphones?

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    • Barney right, you have lynx eyes! 😄

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    • Blaise Laflamme well done . It sounds just great. Thank you posting, Blaise.

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    • joosje thank you Joosje... at least enough for now to go straight to the next one, but I have to restring first!

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    • Blaise Laflamme I have the same headphones.

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    • Barney mystery solved! I personally like the fact they are semi-open, it helps me when tracking myself while listening to both my real sound and what's been recorded.

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      • Brett Gilbert
      • Piano and classical guitar
      • Brett_Gilbert
      • 4 wk ago
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      Blaise Laflamme Since I'm working on this now it's great to have this as an example to follow.  I like how you're posting videos just at the right time when I start working on the same piece.👍    Thanks for the earlier comments and advice on the tempo in #2, I was definitely playing it too fast and revisited with a more relaxed tempo which made legato easier.

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    • Blaise Laflamme very good interpretation. I like the transition you make on the base between the first and second part. And in the first part the arpeggiated chords, how you enhance the melody while the sweet base line is there in the back. Congratulations, you are definitely one on the references in this challenge 

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    • Blaise Laflamme that sound great Blaise. We'll done

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    • Brett Gilbert I'm very happy if by any means I helped you to improve or facilitate the learning of some of these studies, keep the good work you're a fast learner! 

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    • Emma thank you Emma, I"m glad you liked it... the tempo is probably a bit slow, at a higher tempo it flows a bit better IMHO, but that works enough to be listenable 😂

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    • Blaise Laflamme Good point about using them for monitoring live.  I've never tried that.  Would I just wear the headphones while playing and turn up the volume knob on Focusrite?

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    • Barney yes that's what I'm doing, I'm finding the spot where I can hear both. It helps me ensure I don't change too much my position while playing to keep the sound right, as you can see I have the bad habit of moving when playing 😭, and also adapt or compensate plucking and timbers to get what I expect. But at the same time I look like Princess Leia 😂!

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    • Blaise Laflamme Got it!  Thanks Blaise!

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    • Blaise Laflamme Thanks for this submission, Blaise! Sounds good, and also it looks interesting with black clothes and black background.

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    • Robert thank you Robert, yeah the magic of the green screen!

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  • I just got the CM4 microphones and decided to try another take of #1 with my new setup.  They really do make a difference in sound quality and it's fun experimenting with mic placement based on Martin's livestreams and learning how to use reaper.

    It's always interesting to revisit a piece after a break.  I'm more comfortable with it now so I was able to increase the tempo a bit.    Working on #3, but that's going to take probably all week...

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    • Brett Gilbert Great sound, Brett! I hope the college trip went well.

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      • Brett Gilbert
      • Piano and classical guitar
      • Brett_Gilbert
      • 3 wk ago
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      Thanks Eric.  Trip was successful, but a bit hard having the first one leave the nest.  Nice to have the challenge this week for something to focus on!

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    • Brett Gilbert  I bet. My oldest is a high school junior, so I’m just a couple years behind you.

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    • Brett Gilbert hey what a sound improvement and confidence in your playing. That's inspiring to see your progress in both playing and recording, you're more than on the right track, congrats!!

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      • Brett Gilbert
      • Piano and classical guitar
      • Brett_Gilbert
      • 3 wk ago
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      Thanks Blaise!  Those tiny mics really are something, certainly worth the wait.  Based on the livestream recommendations I'm using ORTF for now, although I experimented with XY placement  These will be so useful for piano as well (that challenge starts this week).  

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    • Brett Gilbert you won't regret your investment... at least I don't regret for you when I'm listening to you 😂

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      • MartinTeam
      • LIVE
      • martin.3
      • 3 wk ago
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      Brett Gilbert And here we are, awesome! First of all, wonderful performance, I highly enjoyed the joyful approach! Second, you gotta love those tiny mics, haha! I'm looking forward where those bad boys will get you, I still use my Line Audios on a lot of recordings!

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    • Brett Gilbert That was great Brett. 

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      • Brett Gilbert
      • Piano and classical guitar
      • Brett_Gilbert
      • 3 wk ago
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      Jack Stewart Thanks Jack!

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    • Brett Gilbert so good. pleasure to listen to it, joyful rhythmic and energetic.

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    • Brett Gilbert Nice performance.

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  • Study 2

     

    easy-left hand fingerings

    difficult-making arpeggio section even and musical

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