Week 1 - Harmonics and the Main Theme

¡Hola tonebuddies! 🎸

The Capricho árabe Track is live, and for the next four weeks we're all learning Tárrega's most beloved piece together, in the same place, at the same time. The tonebase team is going in with you, posting our own progress, questions and stumbles right next to yours.

Open the Track here: Capricho árabe Track

This week's suggested focus: Sections 1 and 2 (bars 1–18), the opening harmonics, the slur passage, and the main theme. Go at your own pace, the weekly threads are here to keep us together, not to rush you.

Start by telling us where you're coming from: brand new to the piece, halfway there, or coming back to it? Then post whatever your practice throws up, a clip, a question, a small win, a barre that won't cooperate. No clip required.

You're among the very first players through this Track, so one question for the week: where did something click for you, and where did it trip you up? We're listening 👂

Live check-in: on Monday September 14, 5pm CEST, we're going live to walk through the piece and answer your questions about the Track and your practice. Details and reminder here: Capricho Árabe: Inside Tárrega's Timeless Serenade

Dates: September 4 – October 2. The Watch Party on October 2 will feature recorded submissions from this challenge, a single section or the whole piece. 🎥

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    • Guillermo.4
    • 2 wk ago
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    I’m in!!

    • Barney
    • 2 wk ago
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     Hi Martin, 

    You did an excellent job on this new Track!!

    Please post the annotated score containing all the score comments.  Thanks!

    • Eric
    • 2 wk ago
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    Sections 1 and 2 (mm 1-18)

    I have played Capricho Arabe for many years now, so it is somewhat difficult for me to embrace any new fingerings. That said, I hope I can breathe some life into the piece and learn some new things from doing the track.

    The main new thing that I am trying in this video is stopping the low D string on the second beat of measures 13-17. I had heard this idea before, but never really worked on accomplishing it. To be honest, I'm not even certain I prefer the sound of it stopping in those spots.

    Since I have big problems with my RH index finger, I am using different RH fingerings than Martin, as well as anyone else probably. I typically compensate for my problem by using more thumb than usual, but that often makes thumb damping a bigger problem.

    For variety, I tried playing the opening scale run with rest strokes the first time, and free strokes for the repeat. Any thoughts about this? Is it effective, or would more consistency sound better?

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 2 wk ago
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       Great start Eric. I like the space you give the opening theme. I think I prefer the lighter free stroke on the opening phrase. It gives it a more ephemeral quality which I find more effective. That being said, it is not something I feel strongly about.

      BTW, You mentioned your RH index finger condition. I was listening to some Jerry Reed and came across this video of him and Chet Atkins playing Jerry's Breakdown. Reed rips thru this while tucking his index into his palm, not using it.at all. I thought I would pass that on to you.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni8KBhnebwE

      • Steve_Price
      • 2 wk ago
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       Nice, Eric. I agree with Jack that the free strokes help make that line sound lighter, which fits that part of the music better to my ear.  I like the muting of the bass notes as well. Songs in drop D tuning sometimes have this constant ringing fifth drone that can sound heavy to me. I prefer a cleaner interpretation, but I've heard great versions both ways.

      Again, excellent work on this. 

      • Eric
      • 2 wk ago
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       Thanks, Jack. That’s some pretty incredible playing from Jerry Reed (and Chet Atkins). Not only was his index finger tucked into his palm, but his wrist was firmly planted on the soundboard. That’s a good reminder that what matters is the music, and the technique is only a tool to produce the music. My toolbox may be missing a tool that many others have, but that doesn’t mean I can’t use what I have to make something good.

      • Eric
      • 2 wk ago
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      Thanks, Steve, I appreciate the feedback.

      • Nijwm_Bwiswmuthiary
      • 2 wk ago
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       Excellent start, Eric. I've never learnt this piece myself, although I've listened to the numerous recordings out there.. I think I'll be more like an observer/student for this challenge, and listen and learn from the rest of you guys😊

      • Mark_Janka
      • 13 days ago
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       I've been away from the tonebase world for a bit, but I'm happy to be back to take a crack at this piece. The Track structure really works for me, as-- while I have all the patience in the world for learning this stuff-- I don't alway have a ton of dedicated time. So 5-10 min on one Track segment is a format that I can appreciate.

      It's always a treat to hear Eric play and contribute ideas. Thank you, Eric, for often taking a this leading role in these Challenges!

      Sounding great! I notice your p/i alternation on the run here. Sometimes that combo works better for me, but not always. Wondering: Why did you choose this over m/i or i/a/m or what not? Any particular reason?

      • Eric
      • 13 days ago
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       Good to have you back, Mark! Thanks for listening.

      Are you asking about the run in measure 11? I'm actually alternating p-a I think. Over the last couple years, I seem to have developed a problem in my right hand, specifically with control of the i finger. I suspect it is focal dystonia, but I have not been formally diagnosed.

      Basically, I can still use my i finger, but only in a limited way. If I have time to carefully place it, I can use the i finger for a chord, if no other solution is possible. I can only repeatedly alternate the i finger with another finger or thumb if I am using rest stroke, as this gives it more stability. So, when playing quicker arpeggios or free stroke runs/scales, I need to find another solution. I can alternate m-a, but not too fast. If I have a faster run (like in measure 11), I typically will alternate p-a, or maybe p-m.

      Anyway, I hope we get to hear you playing some of Capricho soon!

    • Steve_Price
    • 2 wk ago
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    Other than occasionally reading through this, I've never spent any serious time working on it since I don't normally play anything this long. I've been enjoying working through this first section, so I'll stick with it and see if I can bring the pieces all together. 

    For as long as I've played, Julian Bream's version was the one I listened to the most, so I'll be trying to incorporate some of his idiosyncrasies with regard to phrasing and color. 

    • Steve_Price
    • 2 wk ago
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    The first 18 bars with a mix of fingerings appropriated from a variety of sources. They work for my hands, so now I just want to clean it up, work on the tempo in places, and balance the voices better.

    I mentioned before that Bream's version is how I hear this piece. He uses very little glissando, and the peculiar way of bringing out the e in mm10 and the staccato line in mm18 are his. 

      • Eric
      • 13 days ago
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       Excellent, Steve! Your lines have a very natural sense of phrasing and direction.

      The decision about use of glissandi and portamenti I think boils down to personal taste. Obviously, Tárrega himself liked them a lot, since they are all over the score. Today, if someone played them all, it would just sound excessive to most of us.

      I like the way you play measure 10. I think the staccato of measure 18 is great, but maybe not every time it occurs.

      • Nijwm_Bwiswmuthiary
      • 12 days ago
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       That's excellent work, Steve, great tone and the music flowed very smoothly. After hearing you and Eric play, I'm itching to learn at least the first few bars 😃.

      • Steve_Price
      • 11 days ago
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       Thanks, Eric. I appreciate it.

      • Steve_Price
      • 11 days ago
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       You should give it a try. I don't know how much I'll get through on this particular piece, but the lessons on these first measures are very good and apply just as well to other pieces. I still remember your Preludio Saudade, so I think it's certainly in your range.

      • Nijwm_Bwiswmuthiary
      • 11 days ago
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       My slurs are really bad, Steve, and I haven't played pieces with extensive use of slurs. That said, I need to work on them more. Your first attempt at this piece was very impressive btw. I'm cheering you on towards more😊

    • Mark_Janka
    • 12 days ago
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    I did a few bits of the Track this evening. This format really works for a guy like me. Thank you for dreaming it up and delivering it to us.

    Where I'm starting from: I often listen to Modules or Livestreams passively (meaning: While I brush my teeth or take a shower). I still learn from them, even if I'm not in a space to pick up my guitar at the moment.

    One of the things I like about the Modules and Livestream, and I appreciate about the folks who deliver them, is that they help me work on the way I think about the music and the playing (which is pleasurable for me), even if I don't have the current moment to play them. And, importantly for me, they speak to ideas and mindsets beyond the particular piece-- about the world of this instrument played in this way-- things that carry into other spaces and efforts.

    But, one still has to play to make it complete. For me, this is where the Track format is perfect. Small chunks of a tune to be processed as one can, when one can. Perfect from my work/life balance, presently.

    My relationship with the piece: Charmed with the tune: I once gave it a shot on my own and gave up before I got to bar 5. The Track format helped me in many ways before even getting to the theme-- how the high-ish e sympathetically rings other strings to allow your hand to shift to the chord structure; how to do the reach for the A maj. That thing where you trade fingers on a glissando to keep the intonation correct-- these are things I'd never, ever have figured out on my own. And, it made the piece reachable-- which, for me, was the difference between trying to play it and giving up on trying to play it. A world in those few minutes and those few bars...

    Even if I don't get this tune "into my fingers," as I think of it, I've already experienced joy in the trying that I couldn't find before.

    Thank you to this community and to Martin and tonebase for continuing to find ways to help interested, but beginner folks like me, find ways into this lovely world of music. 

    Bravo!

    • Mark_Janka
    • 12 days ago
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    A more technical question for the group: It seems just as easy for me to us my RH 1 and 3 fingers (as opposed to my RH 1 and 4 fingers) to do that first slur. And, I have more stability and power in my 3rd finger than my pinky... Am I missing something? Is there a technical or tonal reason to use 4-1, as apposed to 3-1 for that important moment in the tune?

      • Eric
      • 12 days ago
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       Well, I use a pull-off (slur) from 3 to 1 there, so I have no problem with it. Strangely, when the figure repeats later in the piece (after an ascending run) I find myself using 4 to 1 naturally. I say if it feels good and sounds good, do it.

      • joosje
      • 8 days ago
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       in isolated slurs any fingering that feels comfortable and sounds clean is good. 3-1 is just as good as 4-1. But keep practicing 4th finger slurs, you may need it.

    • joosje
    • 10 days ago
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    I learned this piece years ago and because family and friends like it so much it’s still a bit in my fingers. This feels like the right moment to brush up in detail following the great introduction by Martin. This is how my first measures sound like as a starting point. The sound quality is below my standards, just iPad in my kitchen, no mics (they really make the difference I’ll show that later on).

    I notice the introduction of the piece is in 3/4, with some room for rubato playing, and the main theme in 4/4, more rhythmic.

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 9 days ago
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       This is definitely a good start (or, rather, continuation), Joosje. I look forward to your progress.

      I hope to post something soon. I find it musically challenging (due to its Romantic nature) but I find Martin's presentation very helpful.

      • Ron.3
      • 9 days ago
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       I can tell it's still in your fingers - lovey start Joosje. Look forward to hearing the rest

      • Eric
      • 9 days ago
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       Beautifully played, Joosje! I love the subtle nuances of your phrasing, and the way you vary repeats.

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