What do you think is the biggest obstacle to performing at your best, beyond the musical or technical aspects?

Hello everyone,
 

My name is Jacopo, and as well as working as a tonebase Guitar coach, I also work as a coach with musicians, focusing on performance mindset, confidence, and performance anxiety.

 

I'm currently speaking with performers and teachers about how musicians experience performance anxiety, self-doubt, confidence, and what helps them perform at their best. I'm always curious to hear new perspectives, and I'd love to hear yours too.

 

In your experience, what do you think is the biggest obstacle to performing at your best, beyond the musical or technical aspects?

 

I'm also looking to have a few informal 20–30 minute Zoom conversations with musicians and teachers who would be happy to share their experiences. There's nothing to buy or sign up for, I'm simply exploring the patterns people notice across different performance experiences. Feel free to comment below or send me a message if you'd be interested.

 

Thank you,

Jacopo

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    • Derek
    • 8 days ago
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    My biggest problem is performance nerves. Maybe also a problem with preparation i.e. thinking I know something well enough to perform it and then losing focus just prior to the performance instead of using the last few weeks/days to really become fully at ease with the piece. I'd be happy to have a chat on zoom.

      • Jacopo.2
      • 8 days ago
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      Hey  thanks for your reply! The distinction you make between performance nerves and feeling that a piece is "ready" is really interesting. I'd love to explore your perspective further and I'd be very happy to chat on Zoom. I'll send you a private message so we can arrange a time that works for both of us.

    • Steve_Price
    • 8 days ago
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    My biggest issue is focus. It's definitely intensified if I'm playing for someone or recording, but even if I'm playing alone, I'll catch my mind drifting and get lost. It could be thinking about what I've just played or what I'm about to play or something as remote as "when did I let the dogs out last?" A lot of what I hear from better performers seems paradoxical to me since they'll say they forget about the music or get lost in it when they play, which makes things worse for me, not better. Any thoughts on maintaining focus and what I should actually be thinking about while playing would be greatly appreciated. 

      • Jacopo.2
      • 8 days ago
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      Thank you for your reply  . What you describe is really interesting, especially that it happens not only when you're performing or recording, but sometimes when you're on your own as well. I'm curious...when you notice yourself thinking about what you've just played or what you're about to play, what do you think those thoughts are doing? For example, are they helping you avoid mistakes, evaluate what just happened, stay in control, or something else entirely?

      • Steve_Price
      • 8 days ago
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       Thanks for the reply. I'll have to play a little bit and pay attention to see if I can narrow it down. 

      • Jacopo.2
      • 7 days ago
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       , no rush at all. I'd be interested to hear what you notice whenever you get a chance to pay attention to it.

      • Steve_Price
      • 7 days ago
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       Hi Jacopo. I sent a DM, so let me know if it didn't come through. Thanks

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    • Srinath_Subrahmanyan
    • 5 days ago
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    Hi Jacopo,  You are my teacher and you know this :-). Even recording my piece for you leave alone a performance for others makes me a bit nervous and that mild anxiety also affects my memory of the piece despite the practice that went into it.  And if while recording I make a mistake then that also affects the rest of the piece as I still havent built teh resilience to forget and move forward with confidence.  Of course recording for you gives me several takes but the actual performance will not give me that luxury.  So if I can get past this first for your recrodings and then playing for friends&family and finally open mike to strangers; I would have come a long way. Best, Srinath

      • Jacopo.2
      • 5 days ago
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      Yes, , especially from our tonebase coaching video exchanges! 

      When it comes to performance anxiety, what I'm really curious about is not only what happens because of the anxiety, but also what's driving it underneath. A couple of questions that come to mind are:

      • When you feel anxious, even recording a piece for your lesson, what are you actually worried might happen?

      • What does it mean to you when you make a mistake, whether in a recording or a performance?

      Thank you for sharing your experience, and speak to you soon!

      Jacopo

    • Nijwm_Bwiswmuthiary
    • 5 days ago
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    I echo Shrinath's sentiments. I also get nervous even if it's a recording. Sometimes, my memory goes blank or starts to wander, especially if I'm playing in an open mic. My body would rather be somewhere else and my mind wants to get through to the end in a rushed way to find relief. It's almost like an evolutionary fight or flight response where flight wants to win over fight.

    Let me put forward a few theories as to where my performance anxiety might come from.

    First, personally for me, I've always had underlying anxiety about being judged by others, despite knowing that at the end of the day, it's just a hobby and I'm an amateur. Perhaps everyone deals with nerves to varying degrees while performing.

    Second, I'm speculating that there's some connection with the kind of instrument we play and the music. The sounds of the classical guitar are so delicate and soft with a limited dynamics range. So, dynamics, tone colour, accents, not to speak of squeaks and buzzes are sometimes tricky issues, especially for amateurs like me. Of course, the repertoire we play and the techniques involved themselves are very difficult. So, one wrong note, one tricky chord transition or shift has the potential to derail the whole piece and there's no place to hide. 

    Third, classical guitar and its music is pretty niche, sometimes academic and there's an undertone of perfectionism in the field. There might be a perception that you need to be a 13 year old prodigy to be able to play it perfectly. While social media, especially youtube has given us the opportunity to watch and learn from the best in the field, it has also created this notion that one needs to achieve a particular level of excellence. Not everyone might share my views and perhaps I'm merely projecting my own.

    The positive thing is, that despite the nerves and the anxiety, I'd never stop learning or stop wanting to play and perform. So, I take it one step at a time. I'd be very interested to know your views as well,  

      • Jacopo.2
      • 3 days ago
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      Thank you for your comment,  . There are lots of interesting things in what you've shared, from describing what happens when you become nervous to reflecting on some of the possible influences. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience.

      You asked about my views... I do have my own thoughts on it, but one thing I've found really interesting is that different musicians often describe performance anxiety in very different ways. That's one of the reasons I'm so interested in understanding each person's experience first.

      What particularly stood out to me was your description of your body wanting to be somewhere else while your mind is trying to get to the end to find relief. When that response kicks in, what do you notice is happening for you in that moment?

      If you'd like to explore this further, I'd be happy to chat with you on Zoom at some point!

      • Nijwm_Bwiswmuthiary
      • 3 days ago
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       First, the physiological response kicks in- breathing becomes shallower and heavier, muscles get tenser and fingers shake a bit. Mentally, and perhaps on a subconscious level I often think of an incoming tricky passage or fingering that I need to overcome somehow. That's when I forget to use things like tone colour, dynamics, vibrato and phrasing.

      To be clear, these responses are usually more acute when I play live (I attend a zoom open mic every alternate Sunday and the participants are usually not more than 4 or 5). I wonder if I'd be able to play live to a larger audience.

      Thankfully, on TB, we don't have to do that😃. I've participated in community challenges. Here, my experience is slightly different. I do still feel nerves and anxiety while recording but since I can do several takes, I'm generally satisfied with what I record and post on the forum.

      • Richard_M_Levy
      • 3 days ago
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      I agree, it is difficult to overcome what many refer to as stage fright. I can feel my blood pressure and heart rate go up, and my fingers shake so much I can hardly use them to play the music. Not sure what helps. I wish there was a quick fix. One of my teachers said the only solution is to perform more often.  

      • Jacopo.2
      • 3 days ago
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      Thank you for sharing this,  

      What would you say is the trigger, in your experience, of the physiological response? For example, what kind of emotions, thoughts or mental images do you notice before it begins? From the way you've mapped it out, it seems like the physical response comes first and then your attention shifts to the upcoming passage... or is it the other way around?

      It's also interesting what you said about the difference between playing live and recording. Some people describe the opposite experience, where recording is the more dreaded situation and performing live feels much freer. It's fascinating how different musicians experience these situations in different ways.

      You mentioned earlier the anxiety about being judged by others. Out of curiosity, what do you imagine them saying about you when you play?

      • Jacopo.2
      • 3 days ago
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      Thank you for sharing that,  

      It's interesting that you describe the physical side of the experience so clearly: your heart rate increasing and your fingers shaking. When you notice those physical sensations, what do you feel they're a response to?

      You also mentioned that one of your teachers said the only solution is to perform more often. Out of curiosity, has that been your experience? Have you found that performing more has changed anything for you, or do those reactions still show up in much the same way?

      • Nijwm_Bwiswmuthiary
      • 2 days ago
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       Hmm, what I meant was probably that physiological response is the most outward and consequential effect. However, physiological and mental responses arise and reinforce each other simultaneously.

      I guess I've already indicated to some of the reasons why I feel nervous about public performances. As for being judged by others, that's a much more complicated, personal and inward feeling. I've only had supportive members in this community.

      • Jacopo.2
      • 2 days ago
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       , thank you for clarifying that. I think the distinction you make between the outward physiological response and the more inward experience is a really interesting one. I also appreciate you sharing that, especially given that you’ve experienced the tonebase community as supportive.

      • Richard_M_Levy
      • 2 days ago
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      Thank you for responding to my post. When I was a teenager and into my 20's  I would perform in groups and recitals and never had the problems with my nerves. Back in my youth, I played the flute and bassoon in the orchestra and small groups. Now that I am much older (75), I feel that I am being judged as someone who should be more accomplished. In many ways I find the classical guitar more challenging than a wind instrument where there is a single line of music. Also, given my arthritis, my fingers just don't move as fast as they did when I was much younger.   

    • Immanuel
    • 2 days ago
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    My mental mindset is important particularly my level of confidence in what I am playing.  Wanting to play well or putting too much importance on the performance is a recipe for disaster. I play with a flautist and have almost no nerves when I play wth them. Too much mental thought goes into listening to their phrasing and accompanying them effectively for me to have time to start thinking negative thoughts. Nerves are something I only need to manage in solo performing. I always tend to be more confident in my duo playing I know the success of the performance isn't just dependent on me. 

      • Jacopo.2
      • Yesterday
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      Thank you for sharing your experience  

      You mentioned several differences between solo and duo playing...from confidence, to listening, shared responsibility, as well as not putting too much importance on the performance. Out of curiosity, which of those feels like the biggest difference for you?

      • Immanuel
      • 17 hrs ago
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      Definitely confidence. If I am very confident the nerves reduce dramatically.

      • Jacopo.2
      • 3 hrs ago
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       That makes sense  . And what helps or gets in the way of feeling very confident? Or better...how do you know you're feeling confident (e.g. what kind of evidence do you need)?

    • Jacopo.2
    • Yesterday
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     , thank you sharing that. What really stood out to me is that you described a time when performing didn't bring the same nerves, and that the experience has changed over the years. That's the first time someone has described the opposite experience, where performing used to feel comfortable and has become more challenging over time.

    I also appreciate your comparison between wind instruments and classical guitar. Several people have mentioned how exposed classical guitar can feel, so it's interesting to hear your perspective on that as well.

    I'd be curious to explore what you mentioned about feeling judged as someone who "should be more accomplished." If you're open to it, I'd be happy to send you a private message so we can arrange a Zoom conversation.

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