Week 3 - Into F Major and Turning Up the Heat

Halfway there. Suggested focus this week: Sections 5 and 6 (bars 35–44), the F major theme with its barres and stretches, then the arpeggio up the fretboard and the chromatic scale.

Post a clip, a question, or just where you are. Jumping in now? No catching up required, tell us what you're working on and dive in.

One question for the week: where did you get stuck or skip ahead, and what did you do about it?

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    • Eric
    • 2 days ago
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    Sections 5 and 6

    This is the first time in the piece where Martin's fingerings are significantly different than mine. The first video below is with the fingerings I have been using for years. The second is with Martin's fingerings (more or less) after about 15 minutes of practice. I cut the second video short since I have always used the same fingering as Martin does for the chromatic scale at the end of section 6.

    Here are my thoughts right now:

    • Martin's fingerings are certainly easier on the left hand in several places, particularly when he takes out the barres and goes down into the open position (ex. measures 35 and 37). That said, I do find leaving the barres in to be more stable, at least right now after minimally practicing it with Martin's fingerings. If I ever do adopt any of these changes, I will need much more practice with them.
    • I think I prefer my fingering for the big descending diminished arpeggio in measures 41 and 42.
      • Ron.3
      • Yesterday
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       Interesting comparison and both sound good! I've not got that far yet on Tracks and I've resisted revisiting my very old copy of the piece to explore my original fingerings (yet). Thanks for sharing!

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 4 hrs ago
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       I agree with Ron's comment that seeing a comparison between your fingering and Martin's is very helpful. I think my current fingerings of the ascending / descending arpeggios are similar to yours. However I just noticed that David Russell moves laterally similar to Martin's fingerings. I think I will experiment with that approach. Your postings got me to explore this passage. Thanks.

      Russell's CA performance (passage in question ca. 3:18)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEbpKds_uig

      • Ron.3
      • 2 hrs ago
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       Thanks for sharing this link Jack - what an awesome performance!

      • Eric
      • 2 hrs ago
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       Thanks, Jack, very helpful to see Russell's choices.

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 2 hrs ago
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         I haven't done a very comprehensive survey of performances but DR's is certainly something to aspire to (hahahahahaha!🤣)

      • Eric
      • 56 min ago
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       It's hard to beat David Russell! I also really enjoy Marcin Dylla's and Jan Depreter's performances on YT, both at Siccas. Jan's facial expressions are particularly priceless.

    • Mark_Janka
    • Yesterday
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    I'm still in this. Apologies for not posting... I'm needing to go at a slower pace. But I'm enjoying getting to hear about how everyone is thinking about the piece and hearing you all play! Brovo!

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 1 hr ago
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       No apologies necessary, Mark. We will be happy with any sharing at what ever level. (Or none at all ). I also need to go at a slower pace - though I  never have the discipline to actually do so 🤪

    • JUAN_ALONSO
    • Yesterday
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    Good comparison Eric, I see you have a very good control on the piece. I´m pasting here my take of the second half. 

    I had no oportunity to see the live event and Martin´s fingerings, so I´ve used the ones I found more logic for me....I´ll crosscheck with Martin´s fingerings and adopt the easiest and safest.

    regards

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 16 hrs ago
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      That is a good start Juan. I am finding this piece more difficult than it sounds.

      Looking forward to seeing your progress.

      • Ron.3
      • 2 hrs ago
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       Great start Juan. Look forward to hearing more.

      • Eric
      • 2 hrs ago
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      Good work, Juan!

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