Week 3 - Into F Major and Turning Up the Heat

Halfway there. Suggested focus this week: Sections 5 and 6 (bars 35–44), the F major theme with its barres and stretches, then the arpeggio up the fretboard and the chromatic scale.

Post a clip, a question, or just where you are. Jumping in now? No catching up required, tell us what you're working on and dive in.

One question for the week: where did you get stuck or skip ahead, and what did you do about it?

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    • Eric
    • 5 days ago
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    Sections 5 and 6

    This is the first time in the piece where Martin's fingerings are significantly different than mine. The first video below is with the fingerings I have been using for years. The second is with Martin's fingerings (more or less) after about 15 minutes of practice. I cut the second video short since I have always used the same fingering as Martin does for the chromatic scale at the end of section 6.

    Here are my thoughts right now:

    • Martin's fingerings are certainly easier on the left hand in several places, particularly when he takes out the barres and goes down into the open position (ex. measures 35 and 37). That said, I do find leaving the barres in to be more stable, at least right now after minimally practicing it with Martin's fingerings. If I ever do adopt any of these changes, I will need much more practice with them.
    • I think I prefer my fingering for the big descending diminished arpeggio in measures 41 and 42.
      • Ron.3
      • 4 days ago
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       Interesting comparison and both sound good! I've not got that far yet on Tracks and I've resisted revisiting my very old copy of the piece to explore my original fingerings (yet). Thanks for sharing!

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 3 days ago
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       I agree with Ron's comment that seeing a comparison between your fingering and Martin's is very helpful. I think my current fingerings of the ascending / descending arpeggios are similar to yours. However I just noticed that David Russell moves laterally similar to Martin's fingerings. I think I will experiment with that approach. Your postings got me to explore this passage. Thanks.

      Russell's CA performance (passage in question ca. 3:18)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEbpKds_uig

      • Ron.3
      • 3 days ago
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       Thanks for sharing this link Jack - what an awesome performance!

      • Eric
      • 3 days ago
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       Thanks, Jack, very helpful to see Russell's choices.

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 3 days ago
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         I haven't done a very comprehensive survey of performances but DR's is certainly something to aspire to (hahahahahaha!🤣)

      • Eric
      • 3 days ago
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       It's hard to beat David Russell! I also really enjoy Marcin Dylla's and Jan Depreter's performances on YT, both at Siccas. Jan's facial expressions are particularly priceless.

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 3 days ago
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       Perhaps this was Depreter's inspiration.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0daS_SDCT_U

      • Eric
      • 3 days ago
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      That looks about right!

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      • mgshirk
      • 2 days ago
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        nice playing Eric, I've played this with Tarrega's original fingering, but I am tending more towards using the open G for bar 35 and the 3 beat of 36 now simply for ease of playing. Ease of playing is my new mantra. LOL  

      • Eric
      • 2 days ago
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       And a good mantra that is!

    • Mark_Janka
    • 5 days ago
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    I'm still in this. Apologies for not posting... I'm needing to go at a slower pace. But I'm enjoying getting to hear about how everyone is thinking about the piece and hearing you all play! Brovo!

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 3 days ago
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       No apologies necessary, Mark. We will be happy with any sharing at what ever level. (Or none at all ). I also need to go at a slower pace - though I  never have the discipline to actually do so 🤪

    • JUAN_ALONSO
    • 4 days ago
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    Good comparison Eric, I see you have a very good control on the piece. I´m pasting here my take of the second half. 

    I had no oportunity to see the live event and Martin´s fingerings, so I´ve used the ones I found more logic for me....I´ll crosscheck with Martin´s fingerings and adopt the easiest and safest.

    regards

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 3 days ago
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      That is a good start Juan. I am finding this piece more difficult than it sounds.

      Looking forward to seeing your progress.

      • Ron.3
      • 3 days ago
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       Great start Juan. Look forward to hearing more.

      • Eric
      • 3 days ago
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      Good work, Juan!

    • Robert_Love
    • 2 days ago
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     I can get through 1-34 okay. Then it is slow going navigating the shifts and barre.  I notice the fingering on the TB score has differences from videos. 

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