Week 1 - Make It Sing 🎶

¡Hola tonebuddies! 🎸

The Lágrima Track is live, and for the next three weeks we're all learning Tárrega's little teardrop together, in the same place, at the same time. The tonebase team is going in with you, posting our own progress, questions and stumbles right next to yours.

Open the Track here: Lágrima Track

This week's theme: make it sing. Lágrima lives on its melody floating above the accompaniment. Wherever you are in the Track, listen for that top voice and tell us how it's going. There's no section quota, go at your own pace.

Start by telling us where you're coming from: brand new to the piece, coming back to it, or polishing something you already play? Then post whatever your practice throws up, a clip, a question, a small win, a barre that won't ring. No clip required.

You're among the very first players through this Track, so one question for the week: where did something click for you, and where did it trip you up? We're listening 👂

Dates: October 16 – November 6. The Watch Party on November 6 will feature recorded submissions from this challenge, a single phrase or the whole piece. 🎥

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    • Guillermo.4
    • 2 wk ago
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    Lágrima is one of my favorite pieces, thank you for creating this track! 

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    • Andre_Bernier
    • 2 wk ago
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    Very nice challenge but way over my py grade..... However, I will enjoy following the progress of the participants. Good luck 👍

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 2 wk ago
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       Hey Andre, if you haven't checked out the Lagrima Track I think it might be helpful and encouraging. Ema presents the lessons in a way that starts from a very simple and fundamental approach. I have only skimmed over the track so I can't attest to how difficult it gets towards the end. In any event, if you are interested in the piece it is worth looking into.

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      • David_Krupka
      • 2 wk ago
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        I'll second Jack's recommendation, Andre. Even if you don't intend to learn the piece, I think you'll find Ema's commentary useful. (And concerning the piece itself, you might consider looking at the opening theme (first four measures) which is well within your capabilities. But I do understand your reluctance to tackle repertoire you don't feel ready for. That's my practice too!)

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 2 wk ago
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       I should follow your and  's reluctance to not tackle repertoire that is too difficult. But then I am an old dog and that would be a new trick.

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      • Andre_Bernier
      • 2 wk ago
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      I took the time to go through the track for the first section (4 bars) and I have to say that these track are so well done. Great work Martin. This is certainly a great tool for young beginners like me. Bottom line, I will give it a go and try to learn at least the first section for this challenge.

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      • Jim_king
      • 13 days ago
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       Way to go Andre.  For myself, I'm going to work on other new track available, Sor Study in B Minor Op. 35 No. 22.  But I will definitely be keeping an eye on how everyone is doing with Lagrima.

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    • David_Krupka
    • 2 wk ago
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    I've been very sceptical about the value of these learning tracks for anyone other than beginner guitarists. But as I hadn't so much as picked up my instrument for a number of months, and finding myself with some free time last night, I decided to go through the track, guitar in hand. Lagrima is a piece I've known for years, but I can't remember the last time I actually played through it. Probably a decade ago ... So I rather expected this to be a refresher rather than a novel learning experience. I was wrong! Ema is a gifted teacher, and her commentary here is insightful; much of it, moreover, is broadly applicable, extending well beyond the context of this particular piece. So this is  my 'mea culpa': I'll be spending more time with the ToneBase learning tracks than I suggested I might when I spoke with  earlier this year.

      • Steve_Price
      • 13 days ago
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       I agree, David. I started this and was pretty impressed. Even though I use different fingerings and might articulate things differently, I don't think anyone can argue with the systematic approach. This has given me some ideas on how to work on some pieces I've struggled with, so I'd definitely say it's a beneficial format. It's certainly better than the brute-force approach I use 90% of the time. 

    • Ron.3
    • 2 wk ago
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    I agree this track is very well done by Ema. I have played Lagrima before (inspired by Milos Karadaglic) but not for a number of years. I've had a look through the first part of the track and I agree with David that there are many things which are applicable to a number of other pieces I've attempted.

    • tonebase_user.62
    • 2 wk ago
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    Hi, I am brand new to the piece and started using rest stroke in a piece for the first time with this. Looking forward to this!

    • Brad_Cooke
    • 13 days ago
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    I'm learning this for my next RCM exam, so I'm stoked to check out the practice tracks!

    • Immanuel
    • 13 days ago
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    I have learnt to play Lagrima previously and have decided to brush off the dust. Have just worked thought this track. What an incredible job Ema has done. Firstly the instruction, tips and demonstrations are first class. Secondly what an incredibly thorough approach, encouraging you to consolidate every single step along the way. If the other tracks are like this tonebase has created an incredible learning resource.

    • Eric
    • 9 days ago
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    When I saw this challenge posted, I honestly was not too excited about it. I love Lagrima, but it's a piece I have played for a long time and have committed to memory. The thought of posting and listening to nothing but Lagrima for four weeks just did not thrill me.

    I do think the track is very well done, and Ema is obviously an excellent teacher and performer. I do not like having to click through the sections of the tracks, since I don't really find it helpful to practice along with it. Personally, I prefer the older video format, and have really enjoyed the recent videos for Sor's Op 31 No 20 and Reis' Se Ela Perguntar.

    As for this challenge, I thought I'd try posting the way I currently play Lagrima here in Week 1. Then, in the subsequent weeks, I will try to play it differently each time. I have a few ideas already, but I'll wait before committing to anything.

    So, here's my first week video.

      • Nijwm_Bwiswmuthiary
      • 9 days ago
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       Very well played, Eric. I'd also learned this piece about 3 years ago using Thomas Viloteau's lesson on TB.

      I haven't checked out the track yet. Lately, I've been having some problems with my RH fingers. It's as if they've forgotten their movements. So, I'm almost retraining them. Hopefully, I can post a video soon.

      • Eric
      • 9 days ago
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       Thank you, Nijwm! Sorry to hear about your RH struggles. Mine has been a struggle for a few years now. (It’s pretty evident in this video, actually.) I don’t pretend to know what might be going on for you, but I know it helps me to focus more on what I am able to play and less on what I am not able to play. That said, if retraining is working for you, that’s great. For me, it just led to frustration.

      • Nijwm_Bwiswmuthiary
      • 9 days ago
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       Well, you're still producing excellent playing over the weeks and months that I've been here on TB. And a wide range of repertoire as well. I'm eager to hear your other versions of Lagrima.

      For me, it's the alternation of pim combinations that's giving me a lot of trouble. I committed a grave mistake of ignoring it and started using PIA and PAN a lot, probably leading to tension and imbalance in my right hand fingers. It is what is. I'll keep practicing to improve little by little.

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      • Andre_Bernier
      • 8 days ago
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       As usual Eric, bravo for this great performance. 👍

      • Ron.3
      • 6 days ago
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       Excellent as always Eric. Your RH struggles weren't apparent to me, but I like the idea of focusing on what you can play as opposed to what you are not able to. I think I need to take that on board!

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      • Jack_Stewart
      • 6 days ago
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       Beautifully played, Eric.  I agree with your assessment of the track postings, at least for me. I do think they provide a very thorough format for people at the earlier stages of progress. I did reference the Capricho Arabe track fairly often (though I never got my performance of it to anything approaching a finished version). I want to spend time with the BWV 998 track.

      I also agree with listening to 4 weeks of Lagrima, or any piece for that matter. Again, I think there is good pedagogical reason for this but I would prefer alternating the challenges between these track challenges and the previous more open themed challenges. I miss listening to what different people present. This would potentially allow more time for the challenges which I think would accommodate my more leisurely approach these days.

      • Eric
      • 6 days ago
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       Yeah, I like the way the challenges expose me to a wider variety of music. At the last Watch Party, Martin indicated that there would be a Sor challenge, to go with the recent track and video lesson on two studies by Sor. Needless to say, I was pretty excited about a Sor challenge. I was a little disappointed when the Lagrima challenge was posted, but hopefully I have found a way to engage with it by writing some variations.

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      • David_Krupka
      • 6 days ago
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       Well played, Eric! Like  , I'm in complete agreement with your assessment of the challenge and its associated learning track. The enthusiasm I expressed earlier concerns Ema's  manner of teaching - I like in particular that she describes a variety of approaches to problems, as opposed to providing a single 'one-size-fits-all' solution. (I don't at all like the 'put this this finger here, and that one there' presentation style of some other instructors.) But like you, I would prefer a single track without the constant breaks for close-up play-throughs (which I don't bother watching) although I can appreciate that some here might find this helpful. (And most certainly I have no inclination to play along! I just don't learn that way.) I very much like your idea of composing small variations on 'Lagrima' - I've been fiddling around with this myself, trying to imagine what the piece would sound like if, say Giuliani (or some other figure from the past) had written it. I'll try posting something, a score if nothing else, before the challenge ends. (And also like you, btw, I would welcome a Fernando Sor challenge!)

      • Eric
      • 6 days ago
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       That would be really fun and interesting to hear Lagrima in the style of other composers. I don't have enough compositional skill to be able to pull off something like that, but I hope we get to hear/see something along those lines from you. Maybe even one variation for each of the major historical eras.

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      • David_Krupka
      • 6 days ago
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       I'm pretty sure I don't have the compositional skills either, Eric! But it's fun trying anyways. I'm also working on a Dowland version. If I can manage that, I'll move on to Weiss. (I know better than to try my luck with Bach!!)

      • Steve_Price
      • 5 days ago
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       A Dowland interpretation would be really interesting. I've been dabbling with my own take à la Leo Brouwer since he's probably the composer I'm most familiar with, but we'll see if anything sticks. 

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