Livestreams are too long!
Sorry but as a newcomer I have to say the livestreams drive me nuts…I just don’t know how many times I can watch someone else’s zoom calls.
They are simply too long and mostly full of waffle. I have only so much precious time allocated to me on planet earth and the livestream, as a format, just eats away at it.
The Courses with their edited content and high production values are wonderful but the livestreams…I’m done. A cheap way of making content. Too much noise.
Lots to like about tonebase but the livestreams alienate me.
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Une réponse courte. Une expression courante en France :
« Si cela ne vous plaît pas, n'en dissuadez pas les autres. »
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Most of the ones I've seen have been well done. I've also seen livestreams that were disorganized and seemed to be put on with little or no preparation. Those are frustrating to watch. If the presenter's attitude is, "I know this subject so well that I can do a perfect off-the-cuff presentation with absolutely no preparation", then it would be better left undone. There's one particular host that I skip watching now because of that. Quality definitely varies by presenter; at least that's been my experience.
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Alright everyone, let me jump in here before this thread gets longer than one of my livestreams.
First things first — I think we can all agree on one thing: this guy is the worst of them all. I've taken this feedback directly to him and he has promised to do better. He also asked me to tell you he's very sorry. I told him that's not enough, but it's a start.
Now, in all seriousness — , some of this lands. I'm the first to admit I can talk. A lot. And yes, I've definitely been guilty of fiddling with the chat while a guest is speaking. That's on me and I'm going to be more mindful of it going forward.
That said, I want to give a bit of context for those who might be newer to the format: livestreams and courses serve very different purposes. Courses are the polished, edited masterclass experience. Livestreams are the informal workshop — where we go deep on a topic, answer questions in real time, and let the conversation breathe a little. Sometimes that breathing room is where the best stuff happens, sometimes it's where I ramble about my little baby boi Franz. It's a tradeoff.
But I also hear the feedback about pacing and organization — , you put it really well. Starting on time, tighter structure, less fiddling. Those are concrete things we can and will work on.
For anyone who finds the length tough: the recordings are always there. Watch at 1.5x or 2x, skip around, find what you need. got the right idea. That's a totally valid way to use them.
Keep the feedback coming — this is exactly what the forum is for. And, , , and everyone else who jumped in to share their perspective — thank you. This is what a healthy community discussion looks like.
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I have never watched one live. I usually have something more important at the time they are live so I watch them later.,
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I have just caught this discussion (tend to practice guitar before opening emails haha), I quite enjoy the live streams and the hour or so seem to fly by for me. I especially enjoy the going out on tangents, seems more human. It's a mostly solo world for me practicing my guitar, I enjoy the companionship of these live streams even though I seldom comment. I understand that others can feel differently, good advice to view recordings later at whatever speed works for you.
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I'll repeat here something I've suggested before: the livestreams would benefit from having a second person involved, one who could monitor the chat/questions, and troubleshoot when necessary. That would allow the host to give his/her full attention to the presentation. Obviously, this would incur some modest cost to ToneBase (ultimately passed on to the membership, of course).100% agree this would raise the standard hugely.
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The only issue I have with live streams, thinking about it lessons too, is when time is spent showing what not to do. This is sometimes done (elsewhere on the internet of course not necessarily on Tonebase) in an exaggerated almost mocking manner when really technique errors are subtle.
It’s amazing how many time I’ve spotted some significant corrections to my technique during those “off piste” moments in live streams. It’s worth chilling and analysing what is behind the intent.